There's no need for a filibustering announcement of one's imminent departure. One cannot actually leave whilst lost in the grips of fanfare, infused with its ironic, non-scientific, egotistical personal narrative. Not very scientific, reasonable, nor even logical.

Ah well, an egotistical true-believer, eschewing logic in favour of 'esatablishing fact by personal narrative'... what a refreshingly predictable bleeding heart. Or is it bleating hard.

Phooey.

Be gone true-believing flim-flam man.

Fact is not established on mere belief. Its established on rigourous application of logic and strong, unremmiting, unapologetic logical CHALLENGES to ideas, theories and contentions. If you fear these things, then science isnt for you. If you want to quiet alternative perspectives, stomp on dissent and advance an arbitrary unassailable notion, then religion is the answer for you. Hmmm, this whole climate change thing has a tendency to appeal to true-believer types.

One should never be denigrated for merely asking questions, for challenging received wisdoms. In fact, running down people for asking questions speaks volumes. Humans have an enormous rational capacity that gives us the ability to actually see things as they truely are, but it requires clear thinking driven by logic and reason and the conscious qieting of emotions like fear and greed, otherwise they fog one's clear perspective. Not easy to do at times, but clearly possible. In fact science has done much to create a perceptual framework devoid of the muddying influences of psyche.

Science is ultimately a PROCESS of INQUIRY and it relies on not only respect for, but is ultimately driven by OPEN discourse and CLEAR thinking.

Respectfully, OLO would improve by leaps and bounds, almost instantly, if there was a mass retirement of po-mo relativists who constantly invoke discussions as proxy for believing their personal narratives. This whole 'perception is reality' and 'where you stand is what you see' and 'its all relative' self-refuting, tautological circularities that inform so many OLO pieces, is getting real old. Folks may swallow all the PC nonsense and revisionist narratives, for a while, but eventually it starts coming back up, until folks wont swallow it anymore.

It really is getting very tedious and hopelessly redundant. Lets see if k.rudd cant make him and his party redundant by ignoring the box-tickers and slapping us all with yet another tax... this time on the very air we breathe. What gives govt the right to claim the air and extract a price for it anyway.

'ps. you've announced your departure, only to return and respond by way of posts to this comment section. Now, either you like argueing with yourself or you need to make up your mind. Stay or go.

It is funny to read Clive's and others' insinuations against non-believers i.e., “denialism = 'big end of town'”. Murdoch's 'The Australian' – an organ, like Fox News, famous for its Iraq War advocacy - is so fanatical in pushing AGW that it has its dedicated “environment” hacks, along with repeated editorial sermons, to foist such beliefs on the public. Other mainstream press organs are much the same. As for the blue-chip capitalists, well they have been very smooth and established in their accomodation of the great dogma.

Emissions trading is the great hope of bubble-pumping monetarists, especially where rapidly and naturally developing smaller economies – and the current crash - could threaten the developed world's strategic dominance via fiscal speculation and other manipulation. Emissions trading pundits abound among the hedge fund and private equity crowds of econo-parasites (or should that be “eco-parasites?)

Nick Stern is an ex-boss of the World Bank, Garnault too has been on WB's payroll for a long time. And we're supposed to believe that 1) such monetarists have credible authority in matters of climate-related science, and 2) they have no vested interest as purveyors of the same funny-money fiscal religion that has burdened most of humanity with suffocating debt regimes and absurd and destructive bubbles of speculation. The intention behind AGW dogma is clearly more of the same rampant greed based on a cult of individualism and obscene inequalities propping up the privileged. Yet these people dress it up as humane concern and even “leftist radicalism!

Manbearpig and black balloons.

Does anyone know if Clive was a partcipant in the 2020 march on Canberra?

I just find it beyond belief that an entirely beneficial gas, the very reason for life itself, is now being blamed for catastrophic climate with projections of death and destruction. This belief in Algorean science is quite simply the basis of all religious pathology. It can only truly register as madness on a global scale.

e.g.
Rather than natural green CO2 fertilizer, Ruddy goofball is going to spray this diabolical guano fertilizer over everyone because we are all guilty of original carbon sin. This is a full blown sickness where hallelujah, only by the grace of Algorean science will we be saved. lol

Just consider also, that we have already done this limiting of carbon emissions if this is so important .... however not out of carbon sin i might add. e.g. The obvious major drop in carbon emissions during the depression years had NO effect at all on rising atmospheric CO2 and ZERO effect on rising temperatures.

I say, if you really want to save life on earth with all the long-term environmental benefits then burn fossil fuel.

Ruddy Goofball-Keiran I like that. Got one for his side kick ?
What makes that mutt think that a lousy 20 million Australians can have any impact on climate change. There are a three billion up north just itching to join the consumer club & a handful of silly Okkers think they can make a difference ? Gimme a break !