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Generation ‘whine’ and other self-harm myths : Comments
By Jenny Jones, published 19/6/2008Young people who self-harm provoke plenty of vilification, but not enough care.
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Posted by Romany, Thursday, 19 June 2008 1:29:25 PM
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I think it's because sympathy fests are boring.
As I said once before, it's a valid alternative therapy. With the generally poor standard of mental health professionals, and the recent study showing antidepresents are no better than a placebo for most patients, where's the harm in a few cuts. In a world where people mutilate their faces with botox and put foreign objects into their body in the name of 'beauty', I think bringing emotional pain into the physical realm and watching it heal is quite healthy. I think this 'concern' probably comes from loss of revenue by drug companies and phsychologists, and parents not wanting their kids to have any secrets from them. Posted by Usual Suspect, Thursday, 19 June 2008 3:01:53 PM
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We can sympathise as much as we like but unless we address the breakdown of the family unit (i.e. dad and mum) we are wasting our energies. Most of the kids role models live sick lives and unfortunately so do a lot of the Government sponsored counselors who are supposedly trying to help these kids.
The author writes 'instead of vilifying young people who self-harm we need to empower them.' Who is vilifying these kids? I have known a number of people who have self harmed and even suicided. In each case I know of no one who was vilifying these people. What are we to enpower them with? Kids are enpowered with more rights and less responsibilities than ever before. You will find that all a lot of these kids ever wanted was a secure happy home. Unfortunately few of them get it. Posted by runner, Thursday, 19 June 2008 4:38:46 PM
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On the male self harm issue, Gay males are six times more likely to self harm or suicide. The stigma put upon them by some members of the community, does not help in addressing this tragic figure.
Posted by Kipp, Thursday, 19 June 2008 5:45:50 PM
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>>Rather, self-harm is a coping mechanism.<<
bull its a sickness we spread just by talking about it ..>>It is a way of controlling, diverting or communicating overwhelming feelings.<< so is getting drunk running some one over in your car even rape is a cry for help >>(The relationship between self-harm and suicide is complex; in most cases it is not intended to be fatal.)<< hear what your saying they hear about it and try it wether by mouth or in one of the satanic murder crime 'reality' on all our media [enterTAINTmeant?]type up emo there is your problem you create demand just by giving it a catchy name gee if i self harm its a cry for help yep im crying they do it >>knowing they got the support to do it and not be called nutter [or insane ] or deemon possesed or mind programed why?..>>the stereotypes, the prejudice - you start to understand why some young people who self-harm claim “accidental injury” in hospital emergency rooms. And you start to understand why they might find false solace in the “safety” of secrecy, too....<< poor me just about anything is self harm we legislate to protect people suicide is a criminal offense perscribed medicines bring on crappp like this [whats the frug fix for this ] whats that one got mention about people doing automated silly stuff [that used to be called demonic possesion[ever watched the abc kids programs lately? thats egsactly the cccrap they been fed by the media ,and their my space fiend's i note the active link goes to a book someone is selling for 10 bucks guess who is the target audiance [EMO] pre programed to self harm by too much enter taint meant ,the system sets them up to fail Posted by one under god, Friday, 20 June 2008 10:23:48 PM
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A well written article with which the majority of people will agree. That makes it hard to start a long thread on.
In my professional life, and also in one instance in my personal life, I come across quite a bit of the results of self harm. It makes those of us who could not imagine inflicting such physical pain on ourselves very uneasy and uncomfortable when confronted with the injuries of self-harm. My personal view point is that drug or alcohol addiction in young people is another expression of the same problems. Problems of personal dysfunction or being caught up in a dysfunctional situation. It is about the perception of loss of personal power. An empowered person does not self-harm. This, may come across as really strange, but as a parent I would prefer my child to cut themselves than find solace or forgetfulness in drugs. It is extremely difficult to break the lure of total forgetfulness of oneself that is obtained with intoxication. One of the children I've brought up, who has had a pretty rough trot, had an episode of self-harming. It was discovered by accident as he was clever and did it in non visible areas. Fortunately, after the discovery of this a number of issues that seemed insurmountable and to his thinking out of his control could be resolved. By himself. That's the role of parents and others in a care giving/teaching role. To equip our children with tools and to allow them to practice these to solve life's adversities and to accept that there are necessarily going to be times when you'll feel that life is the pits. Some young people are either left completely to their own devices to deal with sometimes dreadful situations or, at the other end of the scale, are so protected that they wouldn't be able to find their own way home and have never been allowed to 'fail' at anything: from school assignments (vetted, researched and edited by parents) to sport. To win is all. To lose or make a mistake is failure. Welcome to Western culture. Posted by yvonne, Saturday, 21 June 2008 10:38:24 AM
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Sel-harm is the result of several things.
Firstly the whole worldview of secular Western and Australian philosophies that have rejected the teachings on God, family and time with one's family as taught by the Catholic Church, is to blame. Libertarians, anti censorship that leads to porno 'art'and materialism alone policies without God and his teachings being the guiding hand has led us down a path to massive selfishness. The kids know it, they know that their parents love the pokies, overworking for material gain, too much sport, the latest plasma screen that will die within 4 years and go to the rubbish tip etc etc. This is what slob parenting in the modern world is all about and the kids know it. Quantity time of loving one's family is what life is about. 'Quality' time is a big lie. So is the big business and government and media lie of 'work/life balance'. Nah. Family first and family time via traditional Labor policies prior to the secularisation of the 1960s and the 1974 Family Law Act; daily Mass, Novenas to Our Lady and the Saints and Roasary with the whole family is what life is really about. Posted by Webby, Saturday, 21 June 2008 11:58:08 AM
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'nice' parents are on the way to Hell as they want to live their lives without God and their kids are neglected and become suicidal, drug takers, promiscuous...etc
the Father of Mercy provide video sermons that explain that when we pick and choose or reject God's teachings that are certain and knowable teachings families and nations fall apart in many ways: http://www.catholic-tube.com/video-channels/fathers-of-mercy-channel Posted by Webby, Saturday, 21 June 2008 12:02:11 PM
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Well we know Who will be at the Roman catholic youth jamboree, twirling the coloured beads ( Rosary).
What has four hail marys to do, with giving people the confidence to live their lives with confidence? Posted by Kipp, Saturday, 21 June 2008 6:36:38 PM
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Being the eternal optimist, however, I choose to believe that the dearth of comment here is because, like me, other posters applaud the article and/or because consciousness has been raised.