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Why nuclear disarmament is not enough to abolish nuclear danger : Comments

By Marko Beljac, published 16/6/2008

Abolishing nuclear weapons alone can make the world even less stable than it is.

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"Operation Starvation" was an attempt to mine the sea lanes that Japan needed for survival. These sea lanes provided the commodities that were needed for Japan to make war:Iron, Rubber, Magnesium, Phosphorous and Uranium/Plutonium if they were to ever build a Nuclear bomb. A JCS report (july 6, 1945) states that since the implementation of operation starvation (Marh 27th 1945) over 500 Japanese ships had been sunk and imports were down by 90 percent. It is rather possible that if this operation was to continue Japan could have been brought to its knees through embargo and blockade. When combined with the constant bombing of the Japanese homeland, Japan eventually would have been unable to make war or even feed its populace. The Bomb was not necessary to end the war. Japan was a defeated country, it was only a matter of time before they realised that.
Posted by The Militant Canadian, Monday, 16 June 2008 7:07:34 PM
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It is an absolute fact that the Japanese were never going to surrender. My uncle was an Australian secret service fighter heavily involved in the Pacific Arena and he knew exactly what was going on.
To win the war against the Nips was going to drag on for years with horrible death counts and the US wisely decided to end it quickly. After all when at war one takes sides and your own are more valued.
People seem to think that the US is our enemy - that is so lame and stupid, the result of fools that have been educated at left socialist universities like Monash. These people have had a brainwash that they will never escape from. The only way people like that would possibly learn about reality is when their little suburban moronic lives are actually threatened with extinction by some foreign enemy that is holding a smoking gun at the head of their children. For some I would doubt even that.
The Nuclear Deterrent and the dominance of the US is the only reason why the west is still enjoying a level of life style that is free and relatively pleasant. Every one of you has been given a freedom that men and women died for and will continue to protect even if some of you rally do not deserve it. That is the generosity of the US and the western dominance.
Australians better wise up soon because the next world conflict is on the horizon and you better prepare yourselves because it WILL AFFECT YOU!
Its a terrible reality but the human race is not governed by logics and reason or by love and good will but by power and evil and those that decide to chose a free world as their model better realize that and be prepared to defend it. If you do not recognize the value of my statement then I can not help you. I know that the majority of real world people understand this so please take your Monash garbage and throw it out with the rest of your trash.
Posted by Kasperle, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 5:53:24 PM
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Absolute is a very strong word. You might change your mind after reading this. Or, at least the absolute bit. peruse this http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB162/28.pdf
Posted by The Militant Canadian, Saturday, 21 June 2008 11:24:07 AM
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@ The Militant Canadian

So I downloaded the pdf and read it.

HMMM!?

Now I ask myself which part of this document you seem to indicate opposes what I said was "absolute".

The entire document is filled with reasons why the nuclear bombs were used. Maybe its a Canadian thing? Maybe you were educated to comprehend things differently or maybe you are what most Americans think you are?
Anyway - your information was totally supporting my point and I thank you for that.
Posted by Kasperle, Saturday, 21 June 2008 9:18:09 PM
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So the hundreds of thousands of Japanese civilians who died are worth less than whoever you think would have been saved?

The Japanese were willing to surrender. No one would have been harmed had they been given a few more weeks to consider and for diplomacy to continue. I'm sorry but your relative who was an agent was not privy to the private communications between the presidents of Japan, the USSR and USA.

Does that mean that if the USA is nuked by another country it will save lives of Iranians, North Koreans, Chinese and Russians? How do you know Hitler wasn't killing people to save the lives of his own soldiers? And if so, what a noble cause! How many Iraqis were saved since the war began...? There are approximately 1 million Iraqis dead since 2003......greater than Saddam Hussein's entire record...did that save lives of Iraqis, even though it far exceeds the death caused by the dictator himself?

If that doesn't make sense to you then you should get your head checked like most idiots, because that is your argument and line of reasoning.
Posted by Steel, Sunday, 22 June 2008 2:21:45 AM
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I am confused a bit: “Why nuclear disarmament is not enough to abolish nuclear danger” (an article title) and “Abolishing nuclear weapons alone can make a world even less stable than it is” (an article contextual conclusion).

Is it possible to abolish guns existing and would world become more safe afterwards?
Posted by MichaelK., Thursday, 26 June 2008 11:49:26 AM
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