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The global abortion bind : Comments

By Joseph Chamie, published 13/6/2008

A woman’s right to choose gives way to sex-selection abortions and dangerous gender imbalances.

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According to many who advocate abortion, the fetus is not human. So how can anyone tell if it is a human boy or girl?

I guess logic does not play much part in the debate regards abortion.

Feminist lies, misinformation, suppression of information, and money all play a part in the debate regards abortion, but not logic.
Posted by HRS, Friday, 13 June 2008 10:25:41 AM
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Joseph Chamie successfully exposes the bind that the pro-choice lobby finds itself in. The fundamental catch-cry of the pro-choicers over the decades has been for the right to absolute "freedom of choice."

Those who have dared speak up for the life of the unborn child have been demonised for doing so because respecting the child means placing restrictions on CHOICE! And that cannot never be allowed.

At the moment Victoria could be about to remove all legal resctrictions on abortion. The ACT has already done so. No, being allowed to kill the child in the womb right up to full term, for any reason whatsoever, is an absolute essential in order for women to lead a happy life - at least in the minds of many.

But now the very serious problems of gender imbalance due to selective abortion are becoming more and more apparent. Probably prochoicers in the west won't care too much though as that problem is largely "over there" and hopefully won't directly affect us too much.

In the end. if female babies are going to be disproportionately killed by abortion, that (rather paradoxically for the feminist movement) is just too bad, because the choice to be able to kill the unborn must be absolute!!
Posted by GP, Friday, 13 June 2008 10:44:50 AM
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The issue about gender selection is a different and separate issue to the one of a woman’s right to choose.

Whilst we, with western values, might consider gender selection repugnant and an invalid justification for abortion, this does not undermine a woman’s fundamental right to choose how her body will be used.

To deny a woman the right to choose on the basis she might use that right to select the gender of her child is to inflict an arbitrary restriction upon those who might not be seeking to make a gender choice.

As for the conduct of Indian and Chinese peasants, if I were female, I would not expect my expectations to be constrained by the practices of peasants.

It is a weak argument which does not stand for much. I am concerned that flawed minds like this hold positions of authority in UN. The UN needs people who are more open and understanding, not constrained and desirous to impose their own prejudices upon people in an arrogant attempt to control their morality.

As for “gender imbalance”, be it on a local or worldly level and the comments of GP

People are individuals with a responsibility to themselves, the balance of world gender populations will resolve itself over time but the life of the individual may be irreparably damaged by your attempt to assert you own prerogative over what is someone else’s body and choice.

Life is about individuals, the world and wider social groups are only statistical collections, the quality of which is only ever measured in the quality of the individual life.

“Life quality” is about individuals determining their own destiny, not being strapped to the one you would inflict upon them.
Posted by Col Rouge, Friday, 13 June 2008 11:35:06 AM
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"A woman’s right to choose gives way to sex-selection abortions and dangerous gender imbalances."

What ever gave you that idea? I think you're confusing abortion with IVF.
Posted by T.Sett, Friday, 13 June 2008 1:24:36 PM
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Joseph Chamie, in the guise of former United Nations population expert, is still trying to control women's bodies. He is now in the Migration Policy Institute with other people with clearly Irish Catholic names.

Indian and Chinese families prefer to rear boys rather than girls because in China the wife of the eldest son cares for the parents in their dotage. In India the practice of bride's providing a dowry, although illegal, has gained popularity since 1948. Now that marriageable women are in short supply you would expect that the value of women will rise, and Indian and Chinese society will adjust their customs to the new reality. Presumably single Chinese and Indian men will cope with the shortage of women the same way single white men did in frontier society in the 1890s.
Posted by billie, Friday, 13 June 2008 1:31:59 PM
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Billie,
How do you account for Japan (and a number of other countries), where there is a lower number of boys being born than girls.

See graph in article.

Would this imbalance have to do with someone controlling women’s bodies, such as a feminist.
Posted by HRS, Friday, 13 June 2008 1:56:31 PM
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