I am not sure what you are saying because of the obvious emotional content and the very incoherent method of your statement but that is OK.
My only problem with any form of legalization of homosexual marriage etc is the effect that come from the roll on effect of these laws.
I personally am totally against the homosexual movement but I am willing to let adults practice in their privacy whatever they wish so long it is not harmful to other adults.
The problem is, as has been noticed in England and the US ie California, what happens to the community that has then no recourse to stop homosexuals to infiltrate the schooling system amongst others.
I do not want homosexual fools teaching or in any way whatsoever influencing my children and I want this as a fact of LAW!
Now you may not like this and you will likely call me all sorts of names which is typical of your block but that will never change my opinion about it and that is a fact you will have to live with and we (like minded) will fight you all the way to the supreme or high court.
You see - we have rights too! Have not forgotten that have we?

What is your fear of gay people, as your posting says more about yourself than I think you would like known!

Chill out Kasperle,

In a few generations, when we have shariah law here, we'll put a stop to all this homosexual nonsense.

Not only will your great-grandchildren be able to stop homosexuals marrying; they'll be able to stone them to death.

Well - I knew some dimwit would come out with the typical garbage in regards to what I said.
What I said is totally kewl for people to know about me and do not worry about my state buddy.
Your comment about exterminating etc is so typical of paranoid little fools like you and it is even more obvious that you will never be able to reconcile the fact that people like me of which there are millions will always look upon your sort with the disgust you deserve.

And I would kick any gay teacher seriously out of the school where my kids attended. And that sir is my RIGHT!

Great Article. I think Kasperle is being serious here so he provides an excellent example.

Kasperle: << And I would kick any gay teacher seriously out of the school where my kids attended. And that sir is my RIGHT! >>

Not if you live in Australia, you homophobic goose.

I think we should keep the debate on homosexuality down to the nuts (pun) and bolts of the argument. The difficulty is to keep emotions out of it, but, equally helpful is to also keep individual prejudice sidelined. If that can be achieved then some sense can be made from the debate.

Tolerating adults sodomizing each other in a civilized community is one thing. Having them promote their very anti family lifestyle and disease and calling it marriage turns the stomach of many.

The thing that all the anti-homosexual posts here have (and will have) in common is a complete lack of evidence. Runner, for instance, regularly conjures up these "disease" accusations, but has yet to provide any proof of his argument. And Kasperle has fallen into the bizarre belief that homosexuality can be taught to children, like multiplication tables. I suggest that anyone who believes homosexuals can recruit heterosexuals to their "lifestyle" is closet homosexual in denial.

The ALP pre-election stated that they would amend the 58 federal inequities, that were of a disadvantage to same sex couples the Humam Rights commission had revealed in their report.
Post election the ALP government discovered that these federal inequities truely totalled near 100. (It should be noted that the previous government stated they would address this issue, but did not!)
This legislation was put before the house of representatives,passed, and sent to the Senate for resolution.
The Coalition still having control of the Senate, insisted on a Senate committee to review the legislation.
We now have a situation whereby the oppostion contradicts itself, by filibustering government legislation that morally rights the wrongs towards same sex couples.
The coalition opposition, is interfering in the rights of members of the Australian community.

Maybe the gay bashers here can move to Dubai.

The job opportunities are excellent and they gave short-shrift to homosexuals.

See:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/01/world/middleeast/01dubai.html

I just love the reply that I suggest that one can teach homosexual behaviour etc. What a fool.
It is obvious to any nut that the meaning was
"influence and example and all that goes with it" in regards to the education of children.
I may remind you that in communist countries the education system started out by bringing very young and impressionable children into line with the madness of the state ideology and this was done very subtly at first. Then after the first stage of brainwashing things taught were the norm.
Don't not tell me that homosexuals do not send their message out very clearly because that is a lie and I refuse to have that garbage introduced to my kids until they are adults when they can decide properly for themselves. That is my right as a parent and if you do not like it maybe you could go to Arabia or somewhere where you will have the freedom that you so abuse here stripped from you.

Sancho You might not agree but try and be a little honest and stop denying the obvious

'For example, one 1982 study mentioned in the Journal of the American Medical Association found that the anal cancer rate for homosexuals is way above normal, maybe as high as 50 times normal.1 And a 1997 New England Journal of Medicine study again drew attention to the "strong association between anal cancer and male homosexual contact."2 (The reason for the connection is that the lining of the anus, as opposed to the much thicker lining of the vagina, is only a single cell in thickness, tears easily, and thus is an easy point of entry for viruses and bacteria. J Anal sex frequently results in damage to the anus and rectum.

Another study found that: 1) 80% of syphilitic patients are homosexual; 2) about one-third of homosexuals are infected with active anorectal herpes simplex viruses; 3) chlamydia infects 15% of homosexuals; and 4) "a host of parasites, bacterial, viral, and protozoan are all rampant in the homosexual population."3

Another study found that: 1) amoebiasis, a parasitic disease, afflicts around 32% of homosexuals; 2) giardiasis, also a parasitic disease, afflicts 14% of homosexuals (no heterosexuals in the study were found to have either amoebiasis or giardiasis); 3) gonorrhea afflicts 14% of homosexuals; and 4) 11% of homosexuals had anal warts.4

Another study found that anorectal sepsis, a potentially toxic bacterial infection, is 4 times more common in homosexual than heterosexual men.5

And other studies have found abnormally high rates of hepatitis B infection,7 hepatitis A infection,8 prostate cancer,9 colitis, enteritis, proctitis, and proctocolitis10 in homosexual men.

In 1997 a writer for the pro-homosexual New York Times noted that a young male homosexual in America has about a 50% chance of getting H.I.V. by middle age, that many homosexuals have abandoned "safe sex" in favor of unprotected anal sex, and that the incidence of gonorrhea rose 74% among homosexuals between 1993 and 1996.11

http://www.home60515.com/4.html

Runner

Your analysis fails to take account of the increase in heterosexual anal sexual practices. Are you suggestion that heterosexuals who practice anal sex are equally anti-family and diseased? If so, what is your solutions. Should we all become lesbians as most lesbians do not practice anal sex?

Also, your link between homosexuality and disease is flayed as it does not take account of at least half the gay community, ie, lesbians who do not practice anal sex.

Just a side issue. If homosexuals, as is frequently suggested, should keep their lifestyles in their bedrooms, I would hope that heterosexuals would return the favour. That means no heterosexual content on television, movies,in magazines. This would also mean no heterosexual public kissing or holding hands etc. The argument that I don't care about homosexuality as long as it is kept in the bedroom is a ridiculous argument. Unlike, heterosexuals, many homosexuals relationships are not 100 percent defined or shaped by sex. Just because most heterosexual relationship are based on sex (which seems to be the case from the ridicules notion of 'keep it in the bedroom')does not mean that all homosexual relationships are. Hence, there is so much more homosexual relationship than just sex so how can it be confined to a bedroom?

Les

'Your analysis fails to take account of the increase in heterosexual anal sexual practices. Are you suggestion that heterosexuals who practice anal sex are equally anti-family and diseased?'

It is obvious that it is totally unnatural and perverted to practice anal sex of the homosexual variety or any other. In prison they refer to such participants as dogs. You fail to show the link to studies showing how anal sex leads to the spreading of disease is flawed. You introduce other issues and deny the obvious. Anal sex is unhealthy and a great spreader of disease. I grant that lesbianism does not spread disease as does those practicing anal sex. Lesbianism is however a perversion all the same. Some padeophiles claim their urges are 'natural'.

Your observation that heterosexuals should keep their lifestyles in their bedrooms is interesting. It is true that the sexual 'revolution' of the 60's opened the gate to every perversion under the sun. Homosexuality is the end result of generations of people who have failed to honour marriage vows. That is why society has only itself to blame for the current epidemic in child abuse, homosexuality, fornication and adultery. We have generations of people with no self control and who are so controlled by their lusts they can't hold a family together.

It seems that because so many have failed in family life they now are only to willing to destroy other families. Instead of repenting and turning to the only One who can forgive them they go from worse to worse. Pornography is not only viewed by many but also promoted in order to entrap people in their lusts Unfortunately morals are learn't from the TV rather that from God's Word.

If anyone is interested to find out where the gay lobby is trying to take us, they can refer to the thread "Canada 1984 the Gulag of inHUMAN RIGHTS" and see just how full of anti-Christian, anti-Jew, anti-critic hate and intolerance the gay movement is.

Each step toward more legal recognition will result in more bullying and intimidation of anyone critical of their views and lifestyle.

Sweden convicted a pastor of a hate crime, for using language not much more colorful than used in the Bible when describing homosexual behavior
when preaching in his own church.

Fortunately the European Commission on Human Rights (thus far) caused the Swedish appelate court to overturn this horrible conviction.

It does not change the fact that the homosexual lobby will increasingly seek not 'equality' but power and a huge legal stick with which to beat its opponents insensible.

The real danger for non homosexuals who have trouble with such behavior is just like when the Unions have 'their people' in industrial tribunals.. they can determine the outcome irrespective of the law itself.

Kipp asks 'what is your fear of gay people'? simple.. it is fear of oppression and marginalization,victimization, and discrimination.
Then the legitimate fear also of a devient and unnatural behavior being taught in schools as a normal and legitimate expression of human sexuality, is also abhorrent.

Homosexual behavior and acts are unquestionably on a par with any devient sexual behavior, but being adults and consent is used to justify it. Nothing can justify it. But for those who are burdened with such desires, the brain chemistry is not set in concrete, and unless you believe that a paedophile who claims he was 'born' that way cannot be helped, (and thus made lawfl)you should hold hope for personal renewal

"'what is your fear of gay people'? simple.. it is fear of oppression and marginalization,victimization, and discrimination."

After millennia of doing these things to us, it's not surprising that you fear we will do it to you.

Rest easy, David. Sexual minorities seek equality, nothing less and nothing more.

Living in a society where all minorities are treated equally will make you and your children safer.