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The Greens: illogical and treacherous : Comments

By Peter Ridd, published 12/5/2008

The Greens are less of an environmental movement and more of a left wing conglomeration devoted primarily to social justice issues.

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Wow! Strong words Peter.

As someone who has been very active in the green movement for decades, having held the positions of president and long-time committee member of the North Queensland Conservation Council and two other non-government organisations, having been a state candidate for the Queensland Greens, a member of the Australian Conservation Foundation, Greenpeace, etc, I can only say…..

You’re spot on!
Posted by Ludwig, Monday, 12 May 2008 9:51:20 AM
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Following the collapse of the communist system, the socialist radicals abandoned their overt representation of a failed political system and basically went “underground”.

The process of ‘entryism’, http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Entryism

And http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/nicholas_blincoe/2008/02/how_green_is_my_berry.html quote “The Greens are now only Green in name and the reason lies in the creation of Green Left in 2006, a leftwing entryist movement that now occupies many of the most powerful positions in the party. Founded by Peter Tatchell, among others, Green Left is an avowedly anti-capitalist movement.”

where someone of one political belief fraudulently enters another political group with the intention of either deliberate sabotage (something which Ted Bailleau is possibly experiencing) or to modify the goals and ideals of the host organisation, to better support the hidden entryist agenda. This practice was wide spread in UK throughout the 1970-1990s and is presumably still going on today.

The victim targets of many trotkyites and extreme left wing malcontents were the green and environmental movements, from where they could use the sentimentality of “saving anything” to undermine the democratic processes which are the real targets of their malcontent.

Now that all sounds terribly “Manchurian Candidate” stuff and conspiracy theory but

based on a comment from the article “In short the Green movement is no longer a defender of environmental conservation, of the flora and fauna.”

I would ask, if not the preservation of the environment, what is the real “green agenda”?

Until someone can explain where all the political radicals and agitators of the past went (apart from those who have thrust copies of “Green Left” in my face with pleadings to buy), I am going to assume they have entered, among others, the environmental movement, from where the will continue to corrupt and pervert that movement to their real will.

Ludwig, interested in your response. I would appreciate your greater elaboration.
Posted by Col Rouge, Monday, 12 May 2008 10:30:19 AM
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Peter - a well written, accurate post. The Greens are a political party hiding behind an environmental facade to raise public awareness of the party's existence but pushing left-wing ideology on a range of issues completely unrelated to and often antagonistic to the environment.
My best example of this was in the late 1990s when the Howard government needed one more vote in the Senate to get its GST legislation through. I wrote to then WA Greens senator Dee Margetts urging her to vote in favour of the GST in exchange for a wide range of green, pro-environment concessions such as no tax on solar hot water systems, reduced taxation on fuel efficient cars, etc. After my second letter (she didn't bother replying to my first one), she somewhat arrogantly advised that the Greens would not support my suggestion as they had their own ways of protecting the environment!
The sad thing is that 90% of their supporters are well intentioned people who genuinely want to see Australia do more to protect its environment but they have no understanding of how they're being conned by Green propaganda nor of the Greens' real political and social agenda.
Posted by Bernie Masters, Monday, 12 May 2008 10:30:42 AM
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There's a lot of bile from Peter, but very few facts.

Here's the actual Australian Greens Population Policy.

http://greens.org.au/about/policy/policy.php?policy_id=52

As you can see, it bears very little resemblance to his abusive tirade.
Posted by Lev, Monday, 12 May 2008 10:32:53 AM
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The Greens suffer the same problem that every ideology does. They seek black and white solutions in a complex world of many hidden variables, This is the reason that Labor or Colaition will always be in power as they deal with complexity in the only way possible - with rhetoric, gestures and just plain empty waffle.
Posted by healthwatcher, Monday, 12 May 2008 10:35:15 AM
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Please, MR online opinion, less from these front organisations spewing propaganda drivel.

You are just insulting your members.

More opinion from any extreme, but from people who actually believe what they write (for reasons other than just money).
Posted by john kosci, Monday, 12 May 2008 11:07:12 AM
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