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'Fitna' fits-up Islam : Comments

By Ruby Hamad, published 10/4/2008

Geert Wilders' 'Fitna' is a put-up job to inflame the anti-Muslim fire.

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What happened to the post of Boaz_David of 19/4/2008, 9:39:31 AM?

Was it censored?

A new On Line Opinion comment was posted by BOAZ_David.
Article: 'Fitna' fits-up Islam
Forum link: http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=7216
Posted: 19/4/2008, 9:39:31 AM
Posted by Philip Tang, Saturday, 19 April 2008 2:49:59 PM
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Ruby, In case you’re still monitoring …. I know you might have felt besieged, but it’s a shame you’ve bailed. Never mind. Some important points were made, which I hope you’ll consider even if you don’t respond.

Granted, there are non-religious agendas afoot, managed by people who will manipulate anything that can be manipulated. The problem some of us have been trying to point to is that the Qu’ran is itself one of the reasons Muslims seem so easy to manipulate. That, and the coercive way in which Islam seems to be managed – I mean, just being “told” and the apparent absence of an opportunity to question. This is important.

Camo, I shouldn’t argue with you just because I don’t share your optimism. Better to wish you luck!

Next time.

Pax,
Posted by goodthief, Saturday, 19 April 2008 5:30:51 PM
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Philip Tang, "What happened to the post of Boaz_David of 19/4/2008, 9:39:31 AM?".

Good question. I have noticed this has happened to several times before (4 or 5). Each time with a different poster. I have reported it to OLO on each occasion I noticed. I didn't notice BOAZ_David post had gone missing as I don't pay any attention to them, but I did receive the same notification as you and now I see that it is indeed missing.

I doubt it was censored given the broad range of posters and their history. Graham Young's initial response was along the those lines - ie that it was "deleted", but other people from OLO have responded to my queries and it seems that was not the case. Maybe it was posted and then went missing, but if so no one has complained about it in a later posting. My best guess is that these notifications are sent out in error.

If so it is a bug in the software. If, like me, you find this annoying, complain to OLO via their feedback page. In the feedback put a whinge at the top explaining what happened, then copy & paste the email you received. Do this often enough and their programmer will fix it - assuming Graham passes them on. No programmer likes to see repeated reports of bugs in their code.
Posted by rstuart, Saturday, 19 April 2008 8:40:01 PM
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goodthief,

I have been reflecting on Ruby's movie review. She acknowledged it as piece of propaganda, then reviewed it as a documentary. Criticising it as a poor documentary is like criticising a car as being a poor implementation of truck. In the case of a piece of propaganda, complaining that it is biased and unbalanced it like complaining that water is wet, or a beach is too sandy. All the statements are true, and all utterly beside the point.

If she wanted to review the movie could of done better. It would of been interesting to see it compared to a Michael Moore piece, for example. But she didn't. In fact it looked to me like she was using the "review" as a vehicle for getting commenting on the Wests reaction to radical Islam. The comments on her piece seem to be a reaction to that, and as such doesn't seem out of place to me.
Posted by rstuart, Saturday, 19 April 2008 9:13:45 PM
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PaulL,
"I'll say it again slowly" but I already said that there was not a specific UN list of banned items. The contents of individual contracts were subject to “dual-use” provisions by the Iraq Sanctions Committee which was mainly controlled by the USA.

http://www.scn.org/ccpi/UNandUSreports.html

For a quick general background on dual use see

http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/sanction/iraq1/2002/paper.htm

Sections 3.2, 5.3 and 5.6

As well as chlorine I can show you where baby milk powder, morphine and even lead pencils were banned under these conditions but it seems that you have already made up your mind.

I see you had a go at Denis Halliday’s resignation earlier why not include his successor, Hans von Sponeck, who also resigned from the same position for the same reasons
http://rwor.org/a/v23/1130-39/1132/sponeck_iraq.htm

Jutta Burghardt, head of the World Food Program in Iraq, followed a couple of days later.

You must know something they didn’t.
Posted by wobbles, Sunday, 20 April 2008 12:00:57 AM
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Wobbles
The fact remains that Saddam was a homicidal maniac, and if he hadn't represented such a threat to World peace and had acted in favour of the welfare of his people, it wouldn't have been necessary for the West to take any action against his regime.
To pin the blame for Saddam's actions on the West is typical leftist twisted thinking.
I distinctly remember at the time the mantra against taking Saddam out militarily. "Give the sanctions time to work" was the cry from the soft left.
Unfortunately the left is all heart and no brain.
Posted by Froggie, Sunday, 20 April 2008 9:41:54 AM
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