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The coming culture wars : Comments

By Geoff Robinson, published 26/2/2008

John Howard’s critics are entitled to celebrate his defeat but his style of conservatism resulted in substantial political achievements.

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PART 2

(errata) in the last post the words 'at the centre' were meant to be with an ealier sentence..apologies)

THE AUTHOR
Is WRONG about 'what it means to be Christian'
Is WRONG about the purposes of policy aimed at controlling immigration and illegal entry to this country.

Is RIGHT about 'cultural identity' becoming an increasingly important issue.

Denying that people have a culture and willingness to commit cultural mass murder/genocide against one's own country is contemptable beyond belief! Imagine..I mean..IMAGINE telling people in other countries "You don't have a culture of any significance and your culture is based on immoral ideas such as 'not all people are equal' etc"

The problem is.. most migrants from backgrounds having strong cultural and racial foundations DO have this very idea.. evidence? Simple..just look for people continuing their old culture after migrating to Australia.

Why pander to it?

Yes..I can read Frank and CJ's minds.. "Hah! ...what about the white British who came here with that idea, what about Indigenous Australians..don't they have a culture of significance?"...

good point :)

PROBLEM.. while this point would be valid at the time of British arrival, we have since developed an AUSTRALIAN identity, (which should include indigenous Aussies) and that now can legitimately be promoted, protected and defended at every level.
Posted by BOAZ_David, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 6:10:15 AM
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One thing I learned from confinement in a jail cell Davie-Boaz was "vengeance is mine said the Lord". Maybe God can fit John Brat into his own sphincter. Good luck Jonnie. Think you'll need it!
Posted by diver dan, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 8:06:40 AM
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Geoff Robinson is correct to say that "faith, race and nation" are a Sirens' call for politics.

And we all know what fate befalls those who answer the Sirens' call...
Posted by Mercurius, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 8:28:59 AM
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Boazy: "THE ANSWER IS.....CHRIST!...

...I believe that Christians have an absolute right to SUE this author for religious vilification..and holding Christians up to serious public contempt!"

Well, I suppose we have neoconservatives, paleoconservatives and now idioconservatives to deal with :)
Posted by CJ Morgan, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 9:21:22 AM
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bennie

Gough and Paul got clobbered and refuse to hide their face. Their adoring mates at the ABC/SBS can't wait to give them the continual exposure that makes many people sick.
Posted by runner, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 9:22:57 AM
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BOAZ: "THE ANSWER IS.....CHRIST!". Fine, but what was the question?

BOAZ: "I believe that Christians have an absolute right to SUE this author for religious vilification..and holding Christians up to serious public contempt!"

Would I have an absolute right to sue BOAZ since he attributes thoughts to me that are not mine: "Brother FrankGols' post confirms this.. as behind his crusading words is the undelying assumption, now re-inforced by the author's vilification implying Christians are bad, evil and don't care about non them. (specially if they are assylum seekers etc)"?

BOAZ, you can't just fabricate things and tell the world they're true. That's called lying, and I don't think Christ liked liars. For the record: I don't think genuine Christians are "bad, evil and don't care about non-Christians". Just the opposite; but I do think there are some people who call themselves Christians who are bad, evil and don't care about non-Christians. Maybe that's overstated. I believe there are nominal 'Christians' who are hypocrites and others are not very bright - and some of these infest OLO.

BOAZ: "Yes..I can read Frank and CJ's minds..." I won't speak for CJ (he's perfectly competent to do that), but instead of reading my mind why don't you actually read the words I write?
Posted by FrankGol, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 9:36:50 AM
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