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The Forum > Article Comments > Sorry to rock the boat: an immigrant’s take on immigration > Comments

Sorry to rock the boat: an immigrant’s take on immigration : Comments

By Meg Mundell, published 10/11/2005

Meg Mundell asks who decides who will be accepted as an Australian citizen and who won't.

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Bronwyn,

Just one last look for the evidence you have for showing such contempt for your fellow Austalians. Time to move on.

But, not surprisingly, no evidence here. Nil. Zilch. Zero.

Never mind. Keep on "screaming". Even the people you hate like a joke.
Posted by Leigh, Monday, 14 November 2005 11:09:26 AM
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Bronwyn,
It is a fact that most people are afraid to look deeply into the mirror and see their faults. It is one reason why western civilisation has a superiority complex – it avoids responsibility for its contribution to the state of the world.

That you have looked and seen, while intelligently trying to educate others to our collective issue, I applaud you.

Redneck, this has to be addressed:
"the most reliable guide to a persons cultural values, and therefore their attitudes and behaviour, just happens to be the colour of their skin."

I have a cricket team of friends – 4 of which are from various sub-continents. They are more reliable and honest than most of the white guys in the team.

You are one of 2 things –
A thoughtful man trying to stimulate dissent to get people thinking (which is highly unlikely due to the illiterate nature of your posts, as the concept would take a man of much greater intellect than you have displayed – which of course could be part of the ruse…)

A man of such little character and diminished self-worth that you have to belittle those easy targets around you to feel any sense of accomplishment or worth.

I know which I believe…
Posted by Reason, Monday, 14 November 2005 12:18:21 PM
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Reason,

You are not the first and won't be the last to try and reason with Redneck. There is no point. He is just one of those people who are not interested in hearing what the other side have to say. I just skip his comments now because they're all so predictable. Debate is supposed to be interesting and his preaching is just not interesting.
Posted by chainsmoker, Monday, 14 November 2005 12:35:01 PM
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To Scout, Reason and Mahatma Sitting Duck.

I can hardly attack all of you for prejudging me and attacking me personally. After all, I am one of the greatest offenders of those particular arts.

But I at least try to submit a reasoned argument before I stick the boot in. Your last posts made no attempt to argue against my line of reasoning at all. You simply piled on the ad hominem as a means of avoiding what you do not want to contemplate.

Scout came the nearest to staying in the arena instead of just catcalling from the stands. But the best he could do was to ask me a question instead of formulating a reasoned response himself.

Now the fact that none of you could debate yourselves out of wet paper bags is OK. To any impartial observer it means that I have got you pretty much where I want you and that you are too scared to respond to my line of reasoning.

Analysis of the pro / anti multiculturalism topics appears to me to display a repeating pattern. The anti's put up all of the good arguments in an objective manner, while the pro multiculturalists resort to emotive language and self righteous posturing as a substitute for a defensible position.

Hey boys and girls, once again we have got the trendy little sods on the run.
Posted by redneck, Monday, 14 November 2005 4:55:37 PM
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Scout,
I note you feel you have exclusive rights to this land and suggest your opponents leave. Quote, "You create your own problems, redneck - either shape up or leave." Are you any different to redneck?

mahatma duck,
I wonder if you can spot the difference in this quote of yours? One is not a race but a universal occupational and exclusive religion.
WHICH ONE?
"Aborigines, Chinese, Pacific Islanders, Greeks, Italians, "Balts", "Yugoslavs", Vietnamese, Lebanese and most recently Muslims."
Posted by Philo, Monday, 14 November 2005 5:30:32 PM
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I like the questions implied in the article. What if she wasn't a white anglo kiwi female? What if she was a middle-eastern male, kiwi or not? Would the pathway to Ozdom be as compliant?
The predjudices of the individual officials involved cannot be ignored. It needs to be counteracted with paticular attention to the financial status of the immigrant. You can currently legally 'buy' your way into Oz. This should be changed...
Posted by Swilkie, Monday, 14 November 2005 6:32:17 PM
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