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By Benjamin O'Donnell, published 1/2/2008The problem of morality: good deeds, it seems, really are their own reward.
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Thank you LEV for bring my attention to the Links that HO HUM copied into his post. I had a look at them and find them the rantings of a disturbed mind. They made no sense at all. I find that so many people of "faith" have little ability to have a logical discussion based on any reasonable argument. They therefore refer to some obscure reference that is unintelligible or quote from some holy book written by humans that for some reason they regard as the word of some supernatural deity which they worship. Of all the hundred of "gods" that have appeared and disappeared throughout history. There seems to be an innate desire to have such a superstition and they all have "faith" in their validity, so it is impossible to have an intelligent discussion with them.
Posted by snake, Friday, 1 February 2008 3:33:34 PM
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Runner, just as a matter of interest, what proof would be required for you to accept that Darwinian evolution (that is, evolution by natural selection) is not "crap"? Further, what do you offer as a testable alternative?
Posted by Lev, Friday, 1 February 2008 3:42:11 PM
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Brings me to to the recent news item, "Air Canada flight diverted to Shannon Airport". The co-pilot was shouting "I need to speak to god", the cabin crew had to phyiscally restrain and cuff him.
We don't know if he was a godbotherer, but it was the cabin crew who secured the safety of the aircraft and hundreds of passengers, not god! Posted by Kipp, Friday, 1 February 2008 4:24:42 PM
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Thank you Benjamin for this very clear exposition of the main approaches to the sources of the moral. I can't think of any other approach that would make it more comprehensive.
I have often wondered, and still do, where does morality come from. I conclude along with you that I try to do the right thing not merely because those others whose opinions I hold in high regard are watching, but because I feel better about myself too when I do the right thing. The deep puzzle remains about the source of our general consensus on what are good and bad things. A social/biological answer seems the most plausible to me. Posted by Fencepost, Friday, 1 February 2008 4:33:17 PM
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Kipp, no doubt god realised that the passengers were in the care of a capable and reliable crew, and thus determined that there was no need to turn away from the creation of his new website:
http://www.godhatesfags.com/written/fliers/20080131_god-hates-australia.pdf Posted by jpw2040, Friday, 1 February 2008 4:51:23 PM
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Runner,
Which holes are you talking about? You aren't really trying to tell us God (or a group of gods) created the earth in seven days? What's your explanation and where is your proof? Posted by Charger, Friday, 1 February 2008 7:58:43 PM
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