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By Audrey Apple, published 25/1/2008Holding on to the ridiculous mythology of the Aussie larrikin as being the definition of Australian spirit IS cause for a cultural cringe.
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Posted by Ponder, Sunday, 27 January 2008 1:51:41 PM
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TLTR, arrh..stuffed up. did not mean you at all, got flustered with the tag names...apologies Maaate!
Posted by Rainier, Sunday, 27 January 2008 2:29:33 PM
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Thanks for posting the sheik's message, Angela84.
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=6929#104423 I have to observe, though, that it could so easily have been written by representatives of a variety of religious tendencies. For example, I recognize a little of the beloved Jensen in this bit: >>We must not allow Lesbians and Gays or the people who are addicted to Drugs, Alcohol and gambling in Casino take Australia to the wrong direction. They don’t love Australia, they love their personal interests. They don’t care about the long term future of our country, they care about their short term of enjoyment and fun.<< And there's more than a touch of the Boaz in this bit too: "...we should raise the spiritual values of our country as well. A nation without spiritual values is like a plane without pilot. A society without family values, is a like a car with no insurance. We must not allow some silly people destroy our country for their fun. We love Australia and they don’t." I wonder which bits they would disagree with? Posted by Pericles, Sunday, 27 January 2008 3:40:13 PM
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ASymeonakis,
"Every one should understand that racist behavior is not only unfair, and illegal but over all it is very dangerous for a country with so many non Anglo Saxon" If this is a threat then it only justifies the concerns you would shout down as "racism". Could you give more than five examples of this racism? Don't forget, you can't include trivial cases of verbal or symbolic abuse, which happen to "skipps" as well, but only signs of intentional institutional practices of racism, such as Lebanese or Indian marriage practices. "the victims of race discrimination, sooner or later, have to create their own organizations to promote their basic rights and block the race victimization for the next generations" But this is tautology - non-white racists like yourself are always already led by their herd-instincts and vote according to their own selfish group-interests. That's how come the Labor Party can even branch stack in the first place. It is visciously circular to preach the cause of the problem - non-white racism - as the solution to it. Isn't that why you would prefer to live here than amidst the tribal discriminations of your heartland? Australians you call "racists" have only ever feared the importation of such tribal intollerance, i.e. racism - don't you get it yet? "I understand that this kind of fight will divide even more (I remind you the Cronula beach, only in 2-3 countries worldwide appeared this kind of racial riots, and the thousands of Australian Lebanese who returned to Lebanon)the Australian society but I do not know if there is any other way" Of course you don't know of any other way to solve your problems than through the promotion of racism and race-based identity politics because that's all redneck hicks like yourself know how to do. And which Lebanese returned to Lebanon? The redneck 75% of Lebanese males who can't tolerate an impure Aussy wife? You say it "is our basic right to have and express our personal opinion, to agree or disagree with them" Lucky you! .... (cont.) Posted by Tate, Sunday, 27 January 2008 9:05:17 PM
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.... Ironic isn't it, that this "right" clashes with that of "Anglo saxons" who are silenced through fear-mongerers like yourself to put up with, for example redneck Lebanese or Indian marriage practices or with the fact that the manner in which heroin is distributed in Cabramatta is a total cultural import, or with the fact that no members of the Asian or Middle Eastern communities care less about the violent KKK type gangs they breed at the dinner table, etc.
The racist herd-instint is easily the biggest wmd of them all. Ponder, "Antonis Symeonakis - beautifully expressed! You go directly to some of the things which cause so much resentment. ... Yours is a well-reasoned argument from the perspective of the racially or ethnically oppressed" Please, point these well-reasoned facts out to us. All I see is vile hatred putting the boot into the Aussy on the ground (after this feminist biggot had its go). "you're standing up against what you have experienced personally. I hope the less moderate in our society realise that, as you said, there are now not so many Anglo-Saxons members of it" Clearly you must know ASymeonakis personally then, since you too find it fruitful to offer childish threats to the dwindling Anglos. It brings pleasure to me just knowing how furious you are inside, knowing that you live in the land of those you utterly hate, much like how Palestinians survive off Isreali hand-outs! "Perhaps they are feeling like an oppressed minority. Great! At last they're suffering some of what you and your fellow immigrants have been through" So you're admitting that Anglos are an "oppressed minority"? Posted by Tate, Sunday, 27 January 2008 9:06:28 PM
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Nope....just warning that they will be, if they continue to behave like intolerant buffoons.
Stupidity is universal, not nationally restricted. What makes people tolerant is respect and understanding. Try it. It's good! Posted by Ponder, Sunday, 27 January 2008 9:20:26 PM
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Yours is a well-reasoned argument from the perspective of the racially or ethnically oppressed; you're standing up against what you have experienced personally. I hope the less moderate in our society realise that, as you said, there are now not so many Anglo-Saxons members of it.
Perhaps they are feeling like an oppressed minority. Great! At last they're suffering some of what you and your fellow immigrants have been through.
Hang on to your right to express a personal opinion, to agree or disagree with others. After all, it is your RIGHT!