Runner “The obvious fruit of the pervert industry is relationship breakdown, unfaithfulness and child molestation.”

Actually, relationship breakdown, unfaithfulness and child molestation is more likely to be the result of sexual repression than access to porn.

I note Sarah@VTAY commented on the low self esteem etc of some women, I would surmise, the “low self esteem” etc. existed well before these ladies erstwhile partners started looking at porn sites and maybe the poor frustrated fellows were driven to seek out porn as an outlet for their fantasies, failing to find any sexual satisfaction from within their real life relationship with their ladiess of low self esteem.

Blaming a website for a relationship breakdown is the lamest excuse I have ever heard.
Blaming a website for low self esteem is just another excuse.

When these fragile women of “low self esteem” get to understand their partners might want to experience more than “missionary vanilla” and that if they were to behave as a responsible partner, it is withing their authority to cater to the needs of their supposed "loved one", then they might find their relationship improves and the attention they receive enhances their “self esteem”.

Speaking personally I find their is nothing like a bit of porn to inspire “creativity” in the bedroom (and laundry and garden shed and occasionally the middle of a forest) and lets face it, what private individuals do in private is entirely up to them and not a matter for public criticism.

Oh, I cannot speak for women but take it as read, most blokes would delight in being viewed as a “sex object”

Very well said Lev and Col.

As for this Adele Horin character, if that's the standard of opinion writers the newspapers are finding, I'm changing careers.

Runner,

Do you realise the irony of your assumptions, considering the article debunked the exact same kind of assumptions? It's a pity you can't be a bit more grown-up about the whole topic.

<<The obvious fruit of the pervert industry is relationship breakdown, unfaithfulness and child molestation.>>

On the contrary porn can help to save relationships and prevent unfaithfulness by adding a bit of spice to a couple's sex life. Spice that couples sometimes go looking for elsewhere if they can't find it with their lazy, repetitive missionary partners.

As for child molestation, there are many reasons why it occurs in remote Aboriginal communities: Lack of law and order; serious alcohol abuse; petrol sniffing; lack of mental health care and rehabilitation...

But your ability to focus on, and imagine such a strong link between pornography and child molestation is very concerning, and I suggest you don't watch any more then you may have already seen.

I'll be interested to see the references you provide for Lev in regards to your claims.

<<I find it interesting that those wanting to promote the pervert industry are often offended when asked if they would be happy for their daughters to perform sex for the public.>>

Can't wait to see your references to this claim either...

<<The champions of this industry are the first to shout when boys and girls are viewed as sex objects.>>

Really? The first?!

You mean THEY beat YOU to the mark? Wow, they must be fast!

"Right underneath it, on the home page is a screeching polemical by Adele Horin on how porn is "poisoning couples and destroying families".

But this is just marketing. The best type of marketing for such 'products' is always the negative "thou shalt not" - and those doing the marketing know this.

It's jsut the same with guns and knives. There are many ways to talk things up using doublespeak.

All I know, as a trained observer, is that PORN IS KILLING SOCIETY. Out of this one dark, demon-infested room comes all of todays sex crime including the lone wolf sex killers like I. Milat who stalk women with vicious intent. Ban the porn. Make it a criminal offence to possess it and the landscape will return to a quieter time. People will respect each other more and Apocalypto will not occur. What a fool world we are becoming!

There is so much wrong with this article, it’s hard to know where to start. Anti-anti-pornography articles all seem to share the same brand of doublethink – That is, if you criticise pornography, you must have issues about people having sex. The idea that people who criticise pornography actually have issues about pornography never seems to enter the anti-anti-pornographers’ heads.

Ms @VTAY defiantly asserts that ‘“porn” is a term that covers an incredibly broad range of content that caters to an even broader range of people’, but she seems incapable of extending that concept to pornography criticism, which also caters to a very broad range of perspectives. Adele Horin’s article mostly focuses on one of these perspectives – the effect on some women who have been in relationships with men who suffer porn addiction. She could have chosen a thousand other perspectives, but this was the one she wanted to write about.

Also, why is Sarah so outraged by Dr Patrick Cames’ claim that ‘3-6 per cent’ of people are sex addicts? All addictions command a certain percentage of any population, and a figure of 3-6 per cent isn’t all that bad – in fact, rather conservative. And, as for him being a ‘self-styled “expert” from the United States, whose chosen field has nothing to do with the degree they received their doctorate in’, I would hardly consider a PhD in counsellor education as having ‘nothing to do’ with the study of sex addiction – unlike Ms @VTAY, who is an ‘honours student in Food Science and Nutrition’.

Lev

As with most information put out by the Pervert for Profit industry we see nothing but dishonesty. The claims of 85% reduction of rape in US being totally dishonest (surprise surprise). Read the following

'Would you try to put out a fire with gasoline?

No? Then you might disagree with an MSNBC online article, "Porn: Good for America !" by Glenn Reynolds, a University of Tennessee law professor. Reynolds suggests that pornography reduces rape!

As proof, Reynolds quotes a U.S. Department of Justice claim that in 2004 rape of "people" over age 12 radically decreased with an "85 percent decline in the per-capita rape rate since 1979" (DOJ's National Crime Victimization Survey of "thousands of respondents 12 and older").
But the FBI also estimates that "34 percent of female sex assault victims" are "under age 12" (National Incident-Based Reporting System, July 2000).Since the DOJ data excludes rape of children under age 12, child rape may be up 85 percent, for all we know.'

In 2005 the NSW Police Commissioner said that child abuse (including sexual abuse) has doubled in the last decade.

You and AJ Phillips can quote all the lies you like. The facts are that the fruit of the perversion industry break up families and increase sexual abuse among children. Think about it next time you are enjoying it.
Last year our Premier Mr Carpenter did the greatest dummy spit seen in Parliament when asked if he would like his daughters to go into the prostitution industry ( I don't blame him). Most users of porn are so caught and bound by their own lusts that they really don't care about the effects until they hit home.