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Charting a new course for Australia : Comments

By Andrew Hewett, published 12/12/2007

Ratifying Kyoto is only a first step along a new path for Australia as an international leader on climate change.

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Here’s another ‘sage’ who knows what everyone thinks and why they voted Labor.

Once again, Kyoto is the bee’s knees, but Hewitt, like the rest of them, will not come out and tell us what, exactly, the Kyoto Protocol has achieved, apart from a lot of lip flapping and grandstanding.

If, as Hewitt admits, “the impacts of climate change will continue to worsen until at least 2030” even if carbon emission cutting starts today (a further indication that Kyoto has meant nothing, so far), is it not possible that the same situation will apply in 2060, the next big date yapped about?

Is it not possible if nothing beneficial will happen in 30 years, then nothing will happened in another 30 years, and so on? Of course it is. There is every chance that nature will still takes its own course, while we are being ripped off monetarily and punished for something we never did. Hewitt’s “$54 billion global fund” should be a good start to help line the pockets of the despots ruling the “world’s poor” for starters.

All of the largesse Hewitt wants countries like Australia to provide to an already doomed Third World will have as little effect as his own organisation, Oxfam, has had in dealing with insoluble problems.

Making the developed world pay for something only another climate change will eventually fix will serve only to lower our standard of living a little closer to that of the undeveloped world, which is what so many fools want to see. They cannot lift the poor to our levels, so they reduce our levels to make themselves look and feel better.

Apart from meddling do-gooders like Hewitt, the real villains are the ‘climate change scientists’, an invented, modern job description for power-crazed witches and crystal ball gazers basking in their five minutes of fame
Posted by Leigh, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 10:04:31 AM
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Actually you're right Leigh - the IPCC is all a big conspiracy organised by the major governments of the world to finally break the stranglehold of the fossil fuel industry, who have been holding back technological development for the last 50 years. Once the oil and gas companies are bankrupted, we'll have all-electric self-flying cars within a decade or two. And once the coal industry is bankrupted too, then pollution, acid rain and wholesale destruction of mountains and forests will be quickly things of the past, and new fuels and technologies will lead to a regular flights to other planets by 2050.

And at least my conspiracy theory is vaguely plausible.
Posted by wizofaus, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 10:23:48 AM
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You are wrong, wizofaus, in suggesting that we'll have all electric self-flying cars within a decade or two. This is because, as you should have realised, the electric cars will be piloted by flying pigs.

You are, however, absolutely correct in forecasting that the third world is doomed. Peak oil and global warming will see to that. In addition, the fact that the most important factor of all (the prospective doubling of the population of the third world over the next 30 years) is NEVER mentioned, means that all attempts to solve these problems will be futile, and that everyone is just urinating into the breeze.

What an interesting century it is going to be. How lucky we are that we are the only country in the world with the four vital things needed for survival. These, of course, are:

1. A surplus of food.

2. A surplus of minerals.

3. A surplus of energy.

4. Most important of all, a sea boundary.
Posted by plerdsus, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 10:43:29 AM
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Actually at least some of the third world will be the least affected by peak oil - i.e. those parts that don't rely on modern technology at all. I suspect they'll also cope to a certain extent with a rising climate, given humans in our primitive state have survived far more extreme changes (like ice ages). It's arguably modern cities with huge populations dependent on agriculture, and situated close to coastal areas that have the most to lose.

And if Australia really has it so good relative to the rest of the world, then I wouldn't be so sure our sea boundary is going to be all that much protection.
Posted by wizofaus, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 11:35:12 AM
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Kyoto is a waste of time.

Us being a world leader in climate change is a waste of time, we are a teaspoon out of a bucket.

We cant save ourselves from global warming we are too small and dont have an impact, there are 6.6 billion of the planet as of yesterday, 21 and a half million means nothing. Australia's future depends on the world coming to the party and most nations wont be in a realistic position to for 50 years.

we should not waste time on this, we should be more worried about improving the degradated natural environmnet here rather than spruiking about emissions crap.
Posted by Realist, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 12:36:57 PM
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You are all wrong.

Global warming does not exist. And, it is not possible to measure the temperature of the globe from within its own domain anyway.

EHS (Environmental Hypochondria Syndrome) is caused by a few things:

1. Man has always been paranoid/insecure about his destiny, such insecurity being fuelled by his atheism. He reasons that since he evolved without a designer/controller, it is up to him to stay evolved (he likes how he has ended up). (There is a logical problem with this reasoning, but we'll leave that to another day.)

2. The world's main security forces, particularly those of the U.S. (they have 16 intelligence agencies), have think-tanks with ultra intelligent experts on behaviour. These U.S. think-tanks work around the clock on manipulative strategies in the interests of U.S. national security. Their feeling is that in order for the world to stay stable, the people of the world need to be constantly distracted from looking over everybody else's shoulder, including the shoulder of their own politicians. So the agencies create scenarios and push them ad nausea in the media. Accordingly, you will note that the U.S. have not come on board (they are too busy tricking the rest of us into slowing our production down with red tape on emmissions). A new scenario is created every couple of decades.

3. Follow the money trail. The main source of EHS is the source which has the money, and which stands to make a lot of extra money from it.

Again, there is no such thing as global warming, particularly any warming caused by man's activity. The weather is the same as it always has been, and no-one would be thinking otherwise were it not suggested constantly. CO2 has never driven climate change, and never will. Sun-spots are the cause of climate change.

The whole scenario is puerile, and childish. And we are wasting a lot of emotional energy and money on it. In fact, it has become a self-perpetuating emotional faith.
The mind is an extremely tricky thing, one which can 'materialise' almost any scenario into a virtual reality.
Posted by Liberty, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 7:56:36 PM
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