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A Rudd Government - 'passionately pro-Israel?' : Comments

By Antony Loewenstein, published 4/12/2007

A visit by Rudd to the occupied Palestinian territories would be a welcome indication that he is keen to understand the daily realities of Israel’s occupation.

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My goodness, Boaz!

>>Aaah...the Leftoid, retarded ... so miserable ... so gullible as to be manipulated by a leftoid no nothing moron (sorry.. moron IS a valid descriptor there) who cannot see a black wall 2 inches in front of him in a snow covered landscape... MORON 1. a person who is notably stupid or lacking in good judgment. 2. Psychology. a person of borderline intelligence in a former classification of mental retardation, having an intelligence quotient of 50 to 69....Indonesian fishermen to rape and pillage our shark stocks... Islamist extremism as recently as 1954... tens of thousands of Christians hunted from their homes by the "Jihadis" supported by these people... 'Charter of Hamas'?... hurling of rockets... homicide bombings of Israelis... violence and hatred... Islamic Jihad... a 'moron'... at least an enemy of Australia and our allies.<<

I think you might need to swab down your keyboard after that lot.

Now, what was your point again?
Posted by Pericles, Tuesday, 4 December 2007 7:32:34 PM
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NOTHING IS UNDOUBTABLE.

This conflict has to stop. Self abuse must be a sign that a culture is in pain or desperate. Hope is essential for any nationhood. If hope is under-threat so are the peoples hanging on to the things we take for granted in "everyday" life.

There is no right or left in this debate. Direct is a super-power at odds with a people displaced. Until homelessness, basic rights and services is restored across Palestinian territories, it is a tough ask to pretend things will be different.

In fact this is a problem we are seeing everywhere. Crux - the world of wellbeing rests with the emotional life of nations?

We need to wake-up. History is again at the core of issues unresolved. The longer we take to address them the deeper the inter-generational rift and the long-term scars.

Much of Israel's population wants resolve. (Especially the Youth). There is 'unfinished business' and the need to focus on healing - And, it is similar to this nations neglect of Indigenous peoples. Not by the witness of violence on the street as much as the witness or construct based on the structural violence.

People need to share their cultural empowerment and destiny equally.

How long will this take?

Rudd is level when it comes to these matters (I think), and it is why I voted for him and his whole team. I lay TRUST in seeing the differences and attending to them with some degree of responsiblity. There is too much APATHY. Politic's as usual... high flyers "acting-out"... it is why the world is struggling on all frontiers too counterpoise.

I pray as a citizen every-night that these issues find greater progress towards a more vaild and balanced consideration. It is the of children tomorrow, as I live today... who have to deal with the shocking nelglect of overdue-deliberation wanning from historical arrangements past. The theatre just gets deeper, complex, ingrained, the longer we remain as the impartial observers.

On all matters - what is it exactly that we plan to leave for those of the future?

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Posted by miacat, Tuesday, 4 December 2007 11:54:35 PM
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Miacat, well, as far as our precious natural pitstocks are concerned, we seem madly out to use 'em all in record time, though admittedly they, not us, can melt down the metallics once again.

Won't be long anyhow, by the looks. Reminds one of an old story about the feudal Prince who was asked whether he knew there were natural riches down deep in his domain.

Of course, was the answer, but why use them all at once?
Think about those who come after us?

The point is, has our greed engulfed us so much, that we really have no adequate plan for future generations?

Cheers - BB, WA.
Posted by bushbred, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 3:27:27 PM
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To add a bit more to how Israel became an illegal nuclear pariah power in the Middle East.

Apparently it is true that Israel began the programme without America's consent, but why the US let the illegal project go on, sounds unbelievable.

According to the article in our 'West Australian' newspaper dated Friday, November 30, 2007, certain documents were found on only the previous Wednesday in the US, which contain evidence that Israel was already in the process of going militarily nuclear without US permission.

The documents also reveal how the US could have stopped Israel in its deadly programme, but the administration
lacked leverage because it could not take steps that would have been politically disastrous at home, cancelling a sale of fighter jets to Israel.

According to the report, even Henry Kissinger was against allowing Israel to go nuclear, because as he mentioned, it would forever reorder the strategic power balance in the Middle East.

It is so interesting that in Murdoch Uni' during the Cold War an American lecturer warned us about the above - how allowing a tiny nation like Israel to go militarily nuclear, would create a lifetime of problems in the Middle East.

Also because it was Israel's above actions which caused Saddam of Iraq to try the same, with Israel knocking out the Iraqi installation under US guidance, what Kissinger predicted has been all too true, possibly even the American-made mess we now see in Iraq - adding on Cheney's present eagerness for a US payback on Iran.
Posted by bushbred, Friday, 7 December 2007 12:20:02 PM
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