"it's heartbreaking for ambos to have to see women coming into the emergency room with bruises or black eyes,"

TRTL,

unless there has been a change in industrial relations, emergency departments are staffed by nurses and doctors.

So it will be the Doctors and nurses who will see the men and women presenting with bruises and black eyes. The ambos may deliver them to emerg.

And on the scale of things, bruises and black eyes are extremely minor injuries when compared other injuries that other people may present with. Chain saws and circular saws create impressive injuries. Nail guns whilst impressive generally do not do as much damage.

So after awhile unless a bruise is extremely impressive, nobody in the emerg is going to blink twice.

Car accidents do give people rather impressive black eyes. Horses have created some very impressive bruises.

TRTL, what is heart breaking in ED is when some dies, especially when they are young. virtually everything else is business as usual.

There was or still is a research program trying to measure the impact on ED's caused by DV, I do not know what happened to it. At one stage they had to alter the criteria.

Such research paper needs detailed examination if it is ever published.

‘’It's the parents that don't have that respectful relationship that will not successfully share parenting, and it shouldn't be imposed on the kids, particularly when they're not use to the other parent playing such a large role.

Blanket shared parenting is ideological, misinformed, and unfair to children."
Posted by Liz, Saturday, 1 December 2007 7:56:36 PM

Firstly, I suppose it OK then that feminists/feminism has a blanket ideology when it suits.’

James H and Samsaid’s response to my posts assume I’m opining based on a feminist agenda.

I’ve seen men who have been the primary caregivers in their relationships, due to wives who have higher incomes, so their career was focused on rather than the husband’s.

I’ve seen a woman leave her children with the husband and move to a different city, and then turn up later, once she’d gotten her act together, and demand shared care.

In both these cases, I believe the children should remain with the Fathers.

I believe it’s in the best interest of the children to stay settled in their surrounds, and not be unsettled by a parent who has suddenly developed a belated sense of what is ‘fair’.

It’s not fair to unsettle kids based on an ill-conceived perception of ‘fair’.

It’s not about what’s fair to the Mother, or what’s fair to the Father. It’s about what’s fair to the kids.

‘But when it comes to overall abuse of girls in schools, it was found in the US that the most abuse of girls was coming from other girls, (and not from boys) and I would think that this situation would be the same in Australia.’

I’d agree with that HRS, but that’s not what the article is about.

’However the way the education system is going, I think that the most abuse and victimisation of boys in future years will be from the teachers.’

You hate to many people HRS, and are too eager to demonise them.

Maybe it’s you that’s doing the victimising.

Liz,
The Australian education system (or at least the public school system) is becoming very similar to the US system in many areas.

In the US system it is now estimated that about 10% of boys have been put on Ritalin (also called Kiddie Cocaine). This is very often at the recommendation of the teacher, but after a number of years, it is now being found that many of these boys will become addicted o the Ritalin That is widespread child abuse, but that type of abuse is not being recognized for what it is.

The number of male teachers in US is low, and it is likely that there will be few male teachers left in Australian schools in a few decades also. This then creates an environment of likely discrimination and prejudice of the boy students in schools.

The boys in the schools will have almost no representation. Many of them will not have fathers, and there will be few male teachers in the schools to represent them either.

You may want to label me a “hater”, but I’m not so naïve as to believe the females do not show prejudice against males.

How often do you see 1-2 girls with a larger group of boys. It is very common to see this, and the girls will seldom show any anxiety about being with a larger group of boys.

But how often do you see 1-2 boys with a large group of girls. It is rare to see that.

Males seem to instinctively avoid a larger group of females, because they know that they will be henpecked remorselessly

HRS

You wouldn't know

You're talking a load of cr@p.

You are so demonstrative of why some people should never be allowed within an inch of children.

And I'm not going to bother responding any further to someone who is toxic in their hate of women.

Liz,
I have not said anything insulting or abusive about you. In fact I have said elsewhere that you are a democratic, non-feminist and articulate teacher, and this can be easily seen by your posts.

Turnrighthenleft,
You have said many insulting and rather abusive things about me, but you have not been able to answer some simple questions.

Maybe you are having problems finding a feminist document that says something positive about the male gender.