Billie,didn't you listen to Peter Garrett?When they get in,they'll change all that.No problemo.You can now safely vote for Labor.All your wishes will be granted.Julia Gillard's socialist state will prevail.You won't have to think or work,the state will provide all.It will be neo Gough nervana.

I'll have a lobotomy or a bottle in front of me and retire to my little humpy.

You must have had a lobotomy already Arjay, either that or you have a memory problem - or is your head stuck in the sand, are you a typical denier 'blind' to what is happening.

Arjay does not remember the "never-ever-GST" or the "ram-it-through-workchoices now we have control of the senate."

Howard *does* backflips, Howard *does* obfuscate - Garret knows this and joked about it, so what.

Spritegal,

'Remember that Australia voted Howard in last time based on Tampa (fear - security) and interest rates (fear - economic stability). Have either of these fears eventuated? Hardly.'

That is just so correct. Today we have very secure borders and interest rates are still low ... simply because we voted for Howard.

The consequences of unsecure borders and high interest rates under Latham and labour were truely avoided.

I reckon our current low unemployment, profitable coal industry, stable economy, low housing interest rates, reasonable investment return (Interest) and low inflation will be maintained once again by voting Howard.

If we vote for the alternative we'll suffer the consequences of high unemployment, abandoning of our coal industry, high interest rates, high inflation and an economy beset with strikes and unrealistic wage demands. The fear our country will descend to another labor/union led mess is very real.

Hmmmmm but investment return might just skyrocket to 17% ... Now there's a thought.

Yes Tim, I thank you for the summary.I'll keep it to tick off the next three years.The Leader has become so important because the others elected by being in the party look to him to keep them in their seats.Such is the way our system works.Polies have to work the system!But we as concerned citizens can help keep them in place as our employees.The rate increases are welcomed by the "haves" their investment returns increase. The "havenots" can't buy houses. But they can vote!Let's give Kevin a go!Howard is leaving anyway, but I DON'T WANT A BAR OF COSTELLO THE CLEVER PERFORMER!

Keith says:

“if we vote for the alternative (Labor) we'll suffer the consequences of high unemployment, abandoning of our coal industry, high interest rates, high inflation and an economy beset with strikes and unrealistic wage demands. The fear our country will descend to another labor/union led mess is very real.”

I understand that this is your opinion, and you believe it (because Howard et al say it? or because you’re a Liberal stalwart?) – but many people are not and it is these people that you (Howard et al) have to convince … and please, not by fear or scaremongering that conservatives are very adept at (they really do believe it is their right alone to govern).

Specifically,
1. How will voting for Labor result in high unemployment?
2. Why do you think Labor is abandoning our coal industry?
3. Given Rudd’s policies are supposed to be a copy-cat of Howard’s, how will they contribute to high interest or inflation rates when Howard’s don’t?
4. What Labor policies will lead to the strikes you suggest?
5. What leads to unrealistic wage demands (not a trick question)?

Ok, you fear Labor – but there are also many who fear where Howard is leading (or not leading) us. Rudd has shifted Labor to a more *centrist* political ideology (unsettling for the staunch left and the small ‘l’ liberals) and where has Howard left to go but more to the extreme fascist right or the fundamentalist neocons? This is what many rational and reasoned people fear and would therefore prefer Rudd’s Labor – just my opinion.

PS: personally, I don’t think we have secure borders (thanks to Bush’s misadventure into Iraq). The biggest border of all (the troposphere) is the least secure of all, and both Bush and Howard seem intent on denying this as well.

How can you sleep when your ears are burning?
How can we dance when the worm is turning?
The time has come,
A tax is a fact,
We'll change our minds,
And never give it back!

This is Peter Garrett waxing lyrical than all the reseviors in Kevin Rudd's ears.

This bunch of no talent,lying shysters are just Labor Bonobos.Everything they touch,they want to fornicate with.

The Labor party has lost it's way,85% of it's powerbase comes from the Public Servant Unions.They believe in high taxes and a decaying nanny state.Note well the performance of DOCS in NSW.