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New right leadership? : Comments

By Graham Young, published 15/10/2007

John Howard triangulates while Kevin Rudd reiterates - what's the difference?

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JOHN HOWARD........"RIGHT" leadership.

KEVIN RUDD........."NEW" Leadership.

JESUS of NAZARETH.."BEST" Leadership.

Come on David, we're waiting with bated breath. Which one - JH or KR - is getting JN's second preferences? It's a long time to wait for perfection. We've all got to vote on 24 November - unless you're one of those Exclusive Brethren who don't believe in voting but try to influence eveyone else's votes.
Posted by FrankGol, Monday, 15 October 2007 2:30:48 PM
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Can't help it, but every time Howard now comes on TV, switch him off because reckon he's had his day, just like Georgie Boy Bush.

First thing I want to ask right now, does he support Cheney and Bush on the coming attack on Iran?

Further, apart from the severe drought problem, reckon it does not make much difference who's in charge, seeing that we have Chinese need and the subsequent pitstock politics to look after us for a long time to come.

Only wish Howard wouldn't harp on it so much as if the whole idea of exporting iron ore to China was completly his original plan. Also the subsequent great demand for
labour brought on by our quarry economy has never been mentioned by our dumb public, which only gets Howard carrying on his everlasting spin about how good he's been for jobs.

Also his reminder about how interest rates were so high before he took over eight or nine years ago from Keating. He never let's know it was well before, however, and were going down fast when Keating lost power, and in fact were well on the way down all over the globe.

Finally, with his further spin about how much money him and Howard have stowed away in the Future Fund, never says that it might be a good idea to put more cash into education as well as into medical care.

Heavens, nearly forgot about our foreign debt which has now nearly reached the half trillion, with Costello telling lies about getting congrats from the IMF about his abilities.

Yep, no wonder I want to shut Howard off. Don't vote for Labour, either. As a matter of fact, was thinking of just signing in on election day.

All that's needed so they tell me.

Cheers, BB, WA.
Posted by bushbred, Monday, 15 October 2007 4:21:14 PM
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Keith, now did you have to go and give me more nightmares than i already have?

Yes those are the issues in thsoe electorates where the toll road is now, but factor in the huge population increase (from across the border) and they won't know about this history. So I don't think it'll have an impact.

Yes Rudd is not unlike a thunderbird puppet delivering prerecorded sound bites. He is very mechanical and I can't believe we grew up the same rough town in the 60/70's, perhaps its because he did?

He must have stayed home reading the works of "Dietrich Bonhoefferon" on weekends and after school.

As for Swan, i think he just stayed home. LOL
Posted by Rainier, Monday, 15 October 2007 5:55:32 PM
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"Strangely, the economy and the Iraq war came at the end of the speech, almost as an afterthought."
Both these items will be the unmentionables in the upcoming elections.
"Forced to put my money on a result this election, I’m backing Rudd."
So are the financiers, bankers and media moguls as the discussions of war with Iran is being ratched up in Washington. What is holding them back is the phony pretext required for intervention. Like the non existing "weapons of mass destruction" or bringing "democracy to Iraq." Athough most people saw through these lies and understood the war was about looting the oil and US domination over that section of the world. The term that is often used in political circles is American hegemony - America dominating the world. Detailed US plans have already been drawn up and military resources are in place for a intervention into Iran. We live in very dangerous times, and the politicians deliberately obscure the important questions in the elections to catch people unawares and unprepared.
Rudd will probably get in, adding new spin to old treachery, surpassing Howard and his dirty work. The Labor leaders were correctly described a full hundred odd years ago, which still stands as "the Labor liutenants of capitalism."Moreover, Labor has always been promoted in every crisis by the ruling elite, particularly for upcoming wars. After the Labor party are squeezed dry by all their treachery, they, more than anyone, open the door for the hated liberals to get back in. What people have been voting and fighting all their lives is the right wing and their reactionary political progam; be it Liberal, Labor, Greens, or the Democrats.
Posted by johncee1945, Monday, 15 October 2007 8:04:21 PM
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"What people have been voting and fighting all their lives is the right wing and their reactionary political progam; be it Liberal, Labor, Greens, or the Democrats."
Posted by johncee1945, Monday, 15 October 2007 8:04:21 PM

ABSOLUTELY agree!
Posted by Ginx, Monday, 15 October 2007 8:21:49 PM
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Yep Bushbred I share your disgust. I just cannot get in the slightest bit enthused about trying to analyse the nuances of Howard and Rudd’s personalities or policy-difference minutiae.

They are all but identical in every way that is at all significant.

You can’t vote for either of them if you believe in the urgent need to quickly establish a genuine sustainability platform for our society, as a large and rapidly growing section of our society does.

In just about every case, you can’t vote for anyone other than Howard or Rudd without your vote counting for one or other of them!! Even if you specifically don't want your vote to count for either of them, you CAN’T, short of putting in a null (and technically illegal) vote. Such is the incredible rort of a voting system that we have: the compulsory preferential system.

So I guess I’ll be doing the same as you on election day by just getting my name crossed off and submitting the only vote that I can possibly live with – an unmarked ballot paper.
Posted by Ludwig, Monday, 15 October 2007 8:49:20 PM
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