Actually, redneck, if anything high IQ's tend to be associated with *poor* social interaction skills...and I speak from personal experience. I have a cousin whose IQ could well be at little as half of mine, who is far better at making friends and generally getting along with other people than I am, as my wife will readily confirm.

As far as giving Aboriginals the "right" to purchase and consume alcohol, nobody is suggesting that Aboriginals as a collective "race" shouldn't have this right, merely that there are particular communities where alcohol abuse has become such a serious problem that a temporary ban is probably necessary just to make any progress at all. I take an entirely pragmatic view on "paternalism" - it should be judged purely on whether it is effective. The fact that Aboriginals have a different skin colour is entirely irrelevant.

Ginx,

It is not only in my eyes and Kanga's eyes that you are a bully and a troll. Some weeks ago, your name was raised, not by myself, in discussion I had with another OLO user. This was at a time when I still thought you were OK.

She/he told me that your persistent repetitious online harassment had caused considerable distress to herself/himself and at least one other OLO user.

I only only hope that she/he will forgive me for having given you the satisfaction that you will undoubtedly derive from this knowledge.

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CJ Morgan wrote: "When presented with an opportunity to move on ..."

You behaved like a despicable creep, and wasted my time and the time of others on this forum with your vendetta against me. Now that I have demolished conclusively (http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=6482#97663) the rationale for that vendetta, you expect me to 'move on'?

As you have not acknowledged your own deceit and hypocrisy nor indicated any remorse for what you have done, the only way I will be able to 'move on' from here is to never have anything to do with you again, either on-line or in person.

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Now before you start, yet again, repeating all those past insults, could I suggest to you, that others might appreciate it much more if, instead, you were to respond to substantial points that other OLO contributors have raised to which you have so far neglected to respond?

These include Shockadelic's post at http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=6482#97425. Prior to that, there was a post by Dresdener at http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=6482#96915 which you have completely ignored.

Now, you wouldn't wish anyone to gain the mistaken impression that all this apparent self-righteous moral indignation over the fact that 'daggett' heinously made a post openly as 'daggett', but through a second account which you allege to be the account of a fictitious user, is merely intended as a smokescreen in order to allow you to avoid confronting facts and logic which you find inconvenient, would you?

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James Sinnamon/daggett/cacofonix/Olduvai et al, I asked you several weeks ago "Why don't you just argue honestly, as yourself, with solid and verifiable evidence?", which is still a pertinent question. If you had done so, you wouldn't have painted yourself into the mendacious corner in which you're currently stuck, hissing and spitting like a cornered snake.

As it stands, you've demonstrated that you are quite willing to tell lies in order to try and get the better of those who disagree with you, and that you are also willing to deploy suspect and unverifiable 'evidence' to support your arguments, some of which place you firmly in the company of some of the most idiotic racists in this forum. In short, you are morally bereft and intellectually compromised.

James Sinnamon/daggett/cacofonix/Olduvail/et al: "...it is more than likely that we will cross paths one day soon".

I certainly hope not - I encounter enough idiots, cheats and liars in the course of my daily business without having to deal with you in person as well. If you think I've been harsh on you in this post, might I suggest you follow your own advice and refer it to the moderators? As it stands, I've certainly wasted enough time on your silly, childish and vituperous games. You (and all your alter-egos) are a blot on this forum, and would be a liability in any social or environmental movement.

You seem to think that as long as you can conceal the evidence cleverly enough, that it's quite reasonable to get away wih any deception you can. You have the moral turpitude of an android. H

CJ Morgan wrote, "You seem to think that as long as you can conceal the evidence cleverly enough, that it's quite reasonable to get away wih any deception you can."

Concealing what?

I 'conceal' my identity by having my home page linked to from all my posts?

I 'conceal' the 'fact' that I have set up a 'sock puppet' account 'cacofonix' by having 'cacofonix' post openly on behalf of 'daggett'?

I 'conceal' the 'fact' that I have set up a 'sock puppet' account 'olduvai' by having 'olduvai' post openly on behalf of 'daggett'?

Or are you trying to say that there is some other deception going on, on a far greater scale, that no-one is able to detect?

Are you for real?

Actually Wizofaust, people with high IQ’s build communities which “interact” socially a lot better than communities full of people with low IQ’s. Where would you rather live, Maquarie Fields and Moe, or Castlecrag and Bondi Beach?

As a Housing Commission kid myself, I couldn’t wait to flee my own area and get away from the drop kicks who infested the joint. Prior to the 84 flats I once lived in being built, the local residents protested that it would bring a lot of lowlifes into their area, and they were right. There were dole bludgers and shonky “workers compensation” cases galore. Not to mention car thieves and a dozen “break and enter” artists whom the government generously supported financially so that they could concentrate on their supplementary means of support.

As for aboriginals, plenty of racist people like myself suggested that aboriginal people should be prevented from purchasing alcohol on the basis that it would be catastrophic for aboriginal society. But anti racist people such as yourself would rather create disaster in your eternal quest to make reality conform to the way you wish it should be.

The concept that all races are equal is certainly a noble one, and I wish it was true. But I can’t deny the evidence of my own senses that clearly contradicts it. The only way anti racists can make your ideology work is to walk through life with your ideological blinkers firmly in place, and by finding ever more novel excuses explaining why some races are always failures. All of these excuses revolve around the concept of “blame whitey for everything”, and that sure looks like racism to me.

If 1 in every 4 Black males between the ages of 20 and 29 in the USA is currently in prison or on probation or parole, and if 45% of the prison inmates in France are Muslims, that looks like compelling reasons to me to keep these people out of my country

And where is your research showing that a) the average IQ in Moe is significantly different to the average IQ in Bondi Beach, and that b) this difference is genetic? (FWIW, research *does* tend to show that IQ in rural areas is typically lower than that in urban areas. It also shows that there is typically less crime and social dysfunction in rural areas).

Your description of your experiences growing up only go to show that "race" is a meaningless determiner of inherent ability to succeed well in life. There's no shortage of white "dole bludgers" and lowlifes. (Incidentally, I'd much rather my taxes go towards ensure they can at least get by as "dole bludgers", rather than be entirely dependent on stealing or begging).

And redneck, I'm afraid it's quite obviously *you* with the blinkers on if you can seriously believe that "some races are always failures". Races that are failures die out.

Yes, there are some very concerning statistics regarding prison populations in various countries around the world. But while I'm open to accepting that some people maybe more genetically inclined to engage in criminal/violent behaviour, I also do NOT accept that this is predetermines their fate, and with the right measures to ensure that these people are given every chance to succeed in life, the temptation to resort to unsocial behaviours can be kept to a minimum. After all, it's obvious that simply throwing them behind bars is not working (just look at the U.S.'s ever-growing prison population). In Australia, Aboriginals are significantly overrepresented in our prisons: but these are the same Aboriginals that were able to function for over 40000 years in a harsh, unforgiving land, without the need to ever build a prison, and with no evidence that a significant percentage of their population were constantly at odds with the tribal norms. Captain Cook himself declared, upon first arriving here, that "In reality [Aboriginals] are far happier than we Europeans...They live in a tranquility which is not disturbed by the Inequality of condition.".
So what happened?