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Privileged 'whites' : Comments

By Jennifer Clarke, published 8/10/2007

Australia’s migration and citizenship laws privilege ‘whites’ in all sorts of ways.

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"My comments were made about Australia, a nation founded on migration..."

The truth is that all nations are nations of immigrants. And Australia was founded by migrants from the British Isles, not by every single cultural, ethnic and religious group from 200-odd nations across the planet.

"Given Australia's location, the case for it staying 'white' is about as strong as the case for it becoming 'white' in the first place - ie, very weak."

By your reasoning, Israel's case for staying Jewish is "very weak", as is the case for Siberia remaining Russian.

Maybe in your borderless utopian world, the masses should be able to freely migrate into any piece of (Western) land they see fit. But in reality, every nation has the sovereign right to uphold its borders and control immigration. Ironically, the Third World countries which Australians are afraid to offend have no hesitation in using immigration controls to retain their present ethnic compositions. As Gore Vidal said, this is simply an act of self-preservation. But apparently such rights don't extend to Australia's founding population.

'Australia' is a European creation. There was no nation by that name on this continent prior to British settlement. European settlers founded and built this nation and developed it into what it is today. If a man builds a house for himself, why shouldn't he and his family reap the benefits of their labour? Is it 'racist' for the householders to have some say over who can move in with them?

"That is the right term for the takeover of Australia from its indigenous population."

Ah, the old the guilt card. Multiculturalists use this often; they tell Australians that their European forebears settled Australia and displaced the nomadic Aboriginal population, so what is wrong with migrant groups doing the same to us? In other words, they tell Australians that in order to make up for past guilt, Australians must meekly accept resurrected colonialism.

"Indonesians DID migrate to Australia's north in precolonial times"

Name a single permanent built Indonesian settlement in Australia.
Posted by Dresdener, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 2:32:32 AM
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SCOTTY you must understand surely your debating style is in need of review?
Racism is a bad thing no matter who brings it ,minority's can often be as racist as any.
I too find the thread of not much worth but clear racism gets a run here too.
In the last few days I have been questioned about my views are they racist?
Maybe, but I do think we need migration, and wonder if we need further devision in our country.
Is the western world, my world trying to unite us? or divide us?
You have to wonder I can however tell you I have walked up to new arrivals to say Gday, and been met with cold stares.
Fear and lack of understanding however should not be rewarded with race hate.
I am truly concerned in my view we all should be, at some young migrants from the African Continent wearing American gang colors.
Maybe we should help new migrants in better ways.
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 6:00:44 AM
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"My statistics are from the Immigration Update for 2006.."

I notice that the Department of Immigration is still playing the same old statistical trick of dividing Asia into three segments - Northeast Asia, Southeast Asia and Southern Asia. If Asia is divided into smaller regions, then obviously the total number of Asian immigrants to Australia does not appear so great at first glance. But to treat Europe as a single region and then claim Europe is the largest component of the immigration program is disingenuous, especially when immigration figures from the ABS show that Asia as a whole has now overtaken Europe and New Zealand combined.

"... someone from a poor Asian country may have trouble getting a tourist visa."

Did it ever occur to you that people from low-wage countries have a higher risk of staying illegally? Hence the reason why a Japanese citizen can enter Australia without any problems, but a Russian or a Ukrainian has to jump through hoops. Discredits your little "white privilege" conspiracy theory, doesn't it?

"..we appear to need migrant labour (skilled and unskilled).."

No, it appears you are parroting the claims of big business in order to justify your own open-borders ideology.

Jennifer, the case for Australia staying 'white' is about as strong as the case for Haiti staying 'black'. In essense, our ethnic makeup defines who we are as a nation. There is nothing 'racist' about it. One cannot understand modern Australia unless you realise that our culture, institutions, social practices, politics, attitudes, way of life and view of the world are fundamentally shaped by our European heritage. And it would be silly to assume that Australia would basically remain the same country if Europeans became a minority. As a geographic entity, Kosovo hasn't changed much over the centuries. But the advent of a Albanian Muslim majority in Kosovo during the 1940s radically altered the culture and politics of this traditionally Serbian Christian province.

If some seek to use immigration to facilitate a radical transformation of the composition of our society, then surely the democratic approval of the plebs is required first?
Posted by Dresdener, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 10:59:00 AM
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It always boils down to skin colour for you, doesn't it Dresdener - no matter how cleverly you weasel around it?

You don't happen to own a dog or two, do you?

Also, "As a geographic entity, Kosovo hasn't changed much over the centuries. But the advent of a Albanian Muslim majority in Kosovo during the 1940s radically altered the culture and politics of this traditionally Serbian Christian province. "

You mean, not counting that period from 1389 to 1912 when it was part of the Ottoman Empire and was predominantly Muslim, albeit in a relatively secular way?
Posted by CJ Morgan, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 11:22:29 AM
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Dresdener – your arguments are reasoned and comprehensive.

You very adequately destroyed the feeble premises on which Jennifer Clarke’s article is based.

Oh and you seem to have invoked the wrath of CJ Morgan but take heart, criticism from such a twisted pen confirms, you have got it right
Posted by Col Rouge, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 11:45:03 AM
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A great article Jennifer,

I agree that as a nation we have resolved to reinforce a long standing belief that we are a white nation.

The test reinforces this belief, along with some of the posts on this page.

Until we become a collective-minded country and start caring for the few remnants that are sick, homeless and dying then we cannot truly become a world leader.

I lived in Perth a few years ago and was shocked at the outward confession of a few South African 'friends' statement that they moved here after the 'collapse' of their country because black Australia had not power or respect and therefore no chance of change.

Furthermore the perception of "Aussies' overseas is overtly racist in nature. We have to change our national image. Actions, like the test and comments on the UN Declaration, further enshrine out status as racist, arrogant, white-minded fools.

Dresdener, there was a long and prosperous relationship between several northern Aboriginal groups with Maccassans from Indonesia. This proves that they got on in a very cosy environment of trade. They still have a festival up north to remember this friendship
Posted by 2deadly, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 4:49:03 PM
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