Are you Wizofaust, dnicholson?

If any person makes a negative generalisation about a race, (ie, “aborigines are lazy”) then that person is making a racist statement, regardless of whether they are involving genetics in their prejudgement. If you consider yourself to be anti racist, you can not denounce others for their racism, and then engage in that behaviour yourself, whenever it suits you.

Thank you for admitting that genetics may indeed explain the violent behaviour endemic in some ethnicities. It is a rare thing for anyone with your ideals to ever admit that. I would agree with you that cultural values are more important than genetics in understanding the behaviour of most people. But if you import people into this country who’s genetics have bequeathed a lack of intellect and a lack of self control, what makes you think that their behaviour will be guided by white cultural values? Is it not a lot more likely that they will adopt the violent and anti authority culture of their own people?

Llisten to the cultural values being endorsed by black rap music, which includes an approval of violence, hatred of whites, disrespect for authority, misogyny, and an advocacy of illegal drug abuse, then cross connect that with the general behaviour of blacks in every country in the world. That is a better explanation for universal black dysfunction, than the “blame whitey for everything” ideology so popular with the nouveaux pseudo intellectual wannabees.

As for stating that white civilisation will not last forever, that is quite possible. But since the human race has made more progress in the last 200 years under white guidance than it has in the last 200,000 years, I don’t see any benefit to the human race in hurrying its demise. Whichever civilisation replaces white civilisation may not be too enamoured of human rights at all. The Asians and the Muslims are hardly noted for their tolerance of minorities. Before you rejoice in the destruction of white civilisation, you had better figure out what it may mean to yourself and your family if that event ever occurs

redneck,

Thank you redneck for having drawn our attention to the double standards evident on this forum.

On the one hand, an alleged 'racist' daggett, is accused, without basis, of having masqueraded as 'cacofonix' (myself) and is attacked remorselessly on the basis of that allegation, whilst the substance of his arguments have neither been acknowleged nor responded to.

On the other hand another contributor, who lies in the 'anti-racist' camp has openly acknowleged having done what daggett is accused of having done, but nothing is said.

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Whilst, no doubt, this will continue to escape the notice of the 'anti-racist' crusaders(1), daggett has, in fact, argued against the view of redneck, with whom he is allegedly in collusion, that "the human race has made more progress in the last 200 years under white guidance than it has in the last 200,000"

He argued against this view at http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=6482#96279

Footnotes

1. Not a PC term I realise, but I couldn't come up with any other which conveyed the same meaning.

It's interesting that Liz is so bound up in the mental concept of "oppressed indigines" that she immediately denied that Japan and Norway could be either ethnically homogeneous or egalitarian because of the existence in these countries of small indigenous populations.

In fact, there are about 50,000 Ainu in Japan out of a population of 125,000,000. This means that Japan really is one of the more ethnically homogeneous of nations. The Japanese have deliberately pursued a policy of supporting a large middle class for the purposes of national unity, so it is one of the more egalitarian nations in this respect (i.e. in terms of wealth differential).

Whilst it would be a positive thing for the Ainu to keep themselves going as a distinct people, you can't define Japanese society around their existence.

CJ Morgan, I have no interest in "maintaining "white" supremacy". I merely want to maintain a free, open society which keeps violence, crime, and segregation to a minimum. If race is an obvious factor in achieving that goal, it must be addressed.

I am a reluctant racist. It has only been my extensive experience with Africans which overturned my otherwise conventional left-wing views on refugees, and I hold no such reservations regarding Asian or moderate-religious middle-eastern immigrants.

Redneck, yes, wizofaus = dnicholson, and yes I'm blatantly cheating the posting limits. I expect I'll be told off soon enough...

I'm not sure racism is as simple as you suggest - if I state that black Africans are more likely to suffer from sickle-cell anemia, have black curly hair, and darkened skin pigmentation, does that make me a racist? I think at least some sort of value judgment needs to be involved - such as "lazy" or "unintelligent". Further, I don't believe I criticised you for being racist, merely pointed out that there doesn't seem to be much evidence to support some of your generalisations. I'd see an "anti-racist" as someone who claimed that any form of racial generalisation was always wrong, no matter how much the evidence supported it.

As far the possibility of Western Civilisations, and the values it has fought hard for, being subsumed by a rising Chinese or Muslim movement that has yet to recognise the importance of those values concerns me very much. It is exactly because of this that I believe we need to allow immigration, to avoid separationist attitudes festering to a point that outright military invasion becomes inevitable. Of course, if there were evidence that there existed a genetic factor among certain ethnicities that meant prevented them adopting modern Western liberal ideals of freedom and equality then perhaps we would have little choice but to enforce separation and protect ourselves with as much military might as we could muster - but fortunately I see no such evidence. Plenty of Muslim and Chinese commentators have argued strongly for adoption of such ideals - and OTOH, what we do see, especially among the Christian far-right in the U.S., considerable evidence of "whites" having difficulties embracing modern liberal ideas.

CJ Morgan,

It was revealing to review your 'contributions' to this discussion:

1. (http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=6482#95870)

Dresdener attacked as:

(i) a racist and
(ii) a dog whistler.

You also corrected Dresdener's mistake in regard to Kosovo, but failed to address any other substantial points raised in Dresdener's posts.

With 250 words unused in your post, Dresdener's reference to my quoting of Gore Vidal, which you have since realised also to have been an instance of 'dog whistling', failed to draw a response.

2. (http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=6482#95947)

Personal attacks against Col Rouge and Dresdener. Still no response to Gore Vidal's 'dog whistling'.

3. (http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=6482#96005)

More personal attacks on Dresdener for:

(i) being a racist,
(ii) being a dog whistler,
(iii) apparently not having read or not understood some books that you had previously recommended to him, and
(iv) having been mistaken about the history of Kosovo (again).

Avoidance of response to Gore Vidal's words.

4. (http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=6482#96059)

Finally, after being directly challenged by myself, a response (illogical and evasive in my opinion) to Gore Vidal's argument.

5. (http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=6482#96059)

A personal attack against MichaelK.

6. (http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=6482#96174)

(i) a personal attack against myself for alleged intellectual dishonesty and fraud, and
(ii) a further evasion of Gore Vidal's argument.

7. (http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=6482#96234)

More personal attacks against myself including an unfounded allegation that I had been masquerading as cacofonix and using that account for dishonest purposes.

8. (http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=6482#96293)

(i) rejection of evidence of the veracity of Gore Vidal's words? (Do you really think I care whether you accept their veracity or not?),
(ii) more personal attacks against myself, and
(iii) that you "generally support the limitation of immigration to Australia on ecological grounds"

9. (http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=6482#96326)

Another personal attack on Col Rouge comprising an expose of apparently racist views elsewhere on OLO.

So, have I misssed anything CJ Morgan?

All I could find in your nine posts so far, apart from personal attacks, appears to be:

1. your correction of Dresdener's mistake concerning the history of Kosovo,

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