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Testing times: how Australian are you? : Comments

By Lyn Allison, published 5/10/2007

There is no reason why we suddenly need to test people. It won’t stop bad characters becoming Australian citizens.

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I think the idea of such a test has merit, pity my ancestors couldn't have applied it to the first europeans, convicts such as prositutes, murderers, thieves etc that invaded our country 230 yrs ago.

This country is already over crowded by about 21,500 million so we should make every effort to reduce the number of people calling this country home, and deport those who refuse to learn Aboriginal (Australian).

No white person living here has the right to tell anyone else not to come here, because its not your land you are just illegally occupying it.
Posted by Yindin, Monday, 8 October 2007 10:18:43 AM
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Yindin, the indigenous inhabitants of this continent never had a country. Indeed, the notion of nationhood was alien to the disparate nomadic tribes of this continent. Nor did they have a single 'Aboriginal' language. As for learning 'Aboriginal', that is somewhat difficult considering no written Aboriginal language existed until Europeans arrived with English.
Posted by Dresdener, Monday, 8 October 2007 1:43:12 PM
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The test doesn't stop people from entering Australia, so why do people argue that it is there to screen out undesirables? It is possible to live in Australia while not being a citizen.

As for Australian values, who cares what they are? I don't and I consider myself Australian and have been an Australian citizen since 1991 after emmigrating from the UK at the age of five. I also think that this point of view is more Australian than anything espoused on this page or anything that can be 'tested' for.

If I don't care about what it means to be Australian I wouldn't want someone else to have to jump through hoops and have some sort of warped idea about what it means to be Australian when they probably don't care either.
Posted by D.Funkt, Monday, 8 October 2007 4:23:51 PM
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It's difficult or impossible to mount a case for this country being overcrowded. We may have a few large cities but take a look beyond them Yindin.

I welcome the line of thinking that immigrants to Oz should be "familiarzied" with the nature of the country they have chosen to live in. I doubt though that the test is adequate to ensure they become so. The need for such a familiarization is illustrated by the previous post I think. "Who cares" what Australian values are you say. Well I do and so do a lot of others. Maybe if immigrants as a whole cared more there wouldn't be the need to introduce this type of course in the first place. We are not the only country who insists on such a program. If I were an immigrant I'd welcome and not be surprised by being required to learn about the counrty I was moving to. What's the surprise in being asked?

And Pauline Hanson doesn't have to get a mention here. Her views are not relevant to this debate. As with all extremeist views, they are only of interest to other extremists.
Posted by Ditch, Monday, 8 October 2007 8:23:36 PM
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It's difficult or impossible to mount a case for this country being overcrowded. We may have a few large cities but take a look beyond them Yindin.

I welcome the line of thinking that immigrants to Oz should be "familiarzied" with the nature of the country they have chosen to live in. I doubt though that the test is adequate to ensure they become so. The need for such a familiarization is illustrated by the previous post I think. "Who cares" what Australian values are you say. Well I do and so do a lot of others. Maybe if immigrants as a whole cared more there wouldn't be the need to introduce this type of course in the first place. We are not the only country who insists on such a program. If I were an immigrant I'd welcome and not be surprised by being required to learn about the counrty I was moving to. What's the surprise in being asked?

And Pauline Hanson doesn't have to get a mention here. Her views are not relevant to this debate. As with all extremist views, they are only of interest to other extremists.
Posted by Ditch, Monday, 8 October 2007 8:23:39 PM
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Dresdener, what a racist you are of course we had a countries, we also had seperate languages, laws and religion, thousands of years before your people in europe. As for nomadic and tribal there is no such thing in the Aboriginal context, most Aboriginal groups travelled in seasons or were static and were not tribal as we had no formal leadership on the mainland.

Its clear you know nothing about the history of Aboriginal people in this land, because a written language was unneccessary for survival. Also the great majority of europeans who have came to this country before WW1 couldn't read or write their own language either.

Ditch what sort of moran are you? In the 2030 years since european innvasion your people have destroyed the land with your greed and placed us all in peril with the misuse of water. So importing any more to crowd the cities or live on welfare is just plain stupid.
Posted by Yindin, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 10:35:50 AM
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