We well remember the dictator and US stooge Batista of Cuba, who at the time, was known throughout the world for torturing all opponents opposed to the blatant criminal actions he was carrying out. Even amongst dictators and their filthy right wing politics Batista stood out.The general population were kept in the most abject poverty and innequality. Let us not forget the mafia and all the other criminals who were welcome with open arms in Cuba. This was the period when the US recognised Cuba and plundered the country -colonial plunder.

At the same time it is important to recognise that Castro came out of the military, and never ever fought for genuine socialism. Castro was always, repeat always an opponant of the mobilization of the working class and internationalism. Like many, including Mao he based himself on armed peasant uprisings. Again and again this perspective created disaster after disaster, particular throughout Latin America. Peasants are small agricultural landholders and are not a revolutionary class. Only the working class can lead mankind out of the present disaster that is approaching.

johncee1945

Yep.

Up the Workers Brother/Sister.

And may we not feel the niggling irritations of President (for Life) Comrade/Generalissimo Fidel Castro's Beard.

May we always have a revolutionary Octogenarian Fernando of the Western Hemisphere (OFWH) to make us safely derivative of the American Left.

Comrade Pedro
Hero of the Soviet Union
Order of the Purge

Chris

If Cuba is such a great place why do nearly a quarter of all Cubans choose to live outside of Cuba?

You talk a lot about Bush’s propaganda but NO-ONE does propaganda better than Fidel Castro.

Can you tell me Chris, why Cuba has one health system for the poor and another for foreigners and Party members?

Agrarian revolution? Are you joking? Ask the Cambodians about Pol Pots agrarian socialism. Talk to the Bolivians about the Shining Path; see what they have to say about agrarian revolution.

You’re living in fairyland if you think the Cubans are happy with their current predicament. You must be quoting Castro’s media mouthpieces. The only way Cubans can actually talk to outsiders without being monitored and censored is through untraceable internet links.

Wake Up. The world has tried communism and it has failed SPECTATCULARLY, always causing immense damage to the local people.

Quote “Cuba is everything America is not” Chris that is out and out bigotry, do you even know any actual real Americans? Have you ever been to America, besides Hollywood or Disneyworld?

What this really illustrates is that the 21St century version of the NOBLE SAVAGE myth is alive and well. It’s clearly a cult like religion with far left loonies. “Praise Be” says Chris.

It continues to amaze me that you can’t see that the websites you throw up are sprouting propaganda themselves. Please tell me you are recent convert to this far-left craziness.

JohnCee1945

Lenin’s October revolution was a revolution of the working class. Real Marxism. It failed miserably. Communism never works because it relies upon the good intentions of its Dictators. But absolute power corrupts absolutely and so Stalinism is the result.

No arguments about Batista. But how can you pretend Castro was any better?

Never forget that the most cruel and muderous dictators have had filthy left wing prejudices. Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot etc. Only Hitler comes anywhere near these other three for pure genocidal mania.

Here's the movie by bittorent Paul:

http://onebigtorrent.org/details.php?id=1777

Truly, it's worth a watch. It has nothing to do with politics. It has everything to do with the human spirit and the power of community. These are not crushed and broken people. They are not brainwashed people. They are intelligent, educated and healthy people.

- you may have trouble dealing with this - because no-one is wearing designer clothes -

"It has everything to do with the human spirit and the power of community."

Chris, you seem to forget that during times of war, there are
countless examples of human spirit and the power of community.

That does not mean that its peoples lifestyle choice, it just
means that they have no other options. Thats very much the
case in Cuba.

Yabby, I think that anytime soon, we Australians are going to run out of options. That's why this documentary is important. It has nothing to do with politics. It is all about an entire society suddenly colliding with physical reality.

It may very well be that the "smart" Cubans who "escaped" to Florida did everyone else a favour, because they may otherwise have proven to be a dreadful burden to the rest. Florida is the home of many very tacky characters, and Bush's brother is their natural Governor therefore. It fits.

Here in Australia, we are still sticking to the dessicated ideas of dessicated old men. Despite the promised paperless revolution, it seems that we are still planning to mill forests into copier paper, cardboard cartons and bum paper - all of it destined for the tip, without exception. Think of that. We are going to send whole forests to the tip, using heaps of fresh water, energy and chemicals.

There's a dessicated idea for you!

The only difference between our dessicated old men and Cuba's dessicated old men is that their dessicated old men have run their course. They aren't needed any more.

Australia's dessicated old men still hold sway over our economy, our quantum of the global environment, our hopes, our fears, our families, our futures, our balls.

- so I think that it would be unwise for any of us to take a superior attitude.

Viva cojones!

Here's that link again (700 Mb bittorrent):
http://onebigtorrent.org/details.php?id=1777