Gary, I'd take the argument further.

The US alliance is dangerous to Australia, no amount of greasing to America will ever guarantee our safety,it will just make more enemies, the Americans will abandon us, if it suits them, as the British did. Howard is a populist politician, he knows there are many voters in the country who have a naive faith in the US alliance, it saves doing the hard work and developing a real foreign policy.

It is about time that the Howard economics were fully realised.

The best direction[ie direct responsibility] is the AEC/Nuclear Corporations.

Nuclear generation HAS NEVER BEEN cost-effective since its inception.

Decommissioning alone vetoes the whole benefit claim.

If we wonder why Howard has never been held responsible for such "doctoring" of the honesty books-then perhaps the majority of mum's and dad's who subscribed to the Telstra float, based upon an illegal prospectus could explain quite a bit regards why such ruses succeed.

Unfortunately-- the opposition also dearly desire the illusion to continue--guess how much one may increase their salary by in the ongoing Star War bribe approach to Defence?

Must we remain Conservatives of either denomination when business as usual is based upon your duplicity and willingness to have your children killed.

The real economy--while under Blair in the UK and Labour in Australia increased exports through arm manufacture sales such that
UK increased from 20 to 31% growth;Australia under Labour reached 20% of export income].

Would anyone sincerely believe that these goons in "nuclear-speak" have really cleaned their acts up?

Asa german ambassador[bulow]stated regards his understanding re Sept 11, he said "these things dont just happen..."

Recall the CSIRO shrapnel in our first terrorist sorty [the Hilton bombing];well now we have Spanish terror-bombs destroying steel train chassis's from underneath, when we sit onboard with a back-pack.

never mind--we dont require a "shred of living evidence" we just have to manufacture interventions so taiwan casinos get built in Honiara.

Its time indeed..

Keep it up, lads and lassies, could say that going by most of the commentaries, you are a credit to OLO and the Internet, and which is becoming living proof of the old saying that the truth will out.

It is interesting that when I first became a member of OlO, I was shocked to find Howard had a personal website in it.

But it didn't last long, and in fact, could wish that all party politico's should be disallowed, because it is said in the bush that though they start with good intentions, it is Big Biz that usually takes them over, proving that in the end it is money that does the talking.

Cheers - BB, WA.

Salaam to you too, Bushy and all.

Well, the neo-cons were right when they said that they were history's actors - and the rest of us were left to just observe their works. It's a Dr Who moment in time alright. Still, never forget Ozymandias. Even neo-cons are subordinate to the slow but deliberate turn of the mills of time. The tortoise WILL outrun the hare. See if it doesn't!

Marlene and I listened to Cynthia McKinney today, in an audio podcast from London (parts 1 and 2):

http://www.radio4all.net/pub/files/londonsoundposse@googlemail.com/2704-1-20070911-cynthia_mckinney_in_london_part_1.mp3

http://www.radio4all.net/pub/files/londonsoundposse@googlemail.com/2704-1-20070911-cynthia_mckinney_in_london_part_2.mp3

Cynthia is a feisty ex-congressperson who famously stood toe-to-toe with Rumsfeld over the corruption in the Pentagon (Youtube):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eootfzAhAoU

Unfortunately, Cyn got a bit too close to the Saudi-911 connection in 2004, as you can see in these Google videos:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4861158466699324733

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-368745798563225089&hl=en

The fact that AIPAC influence and money were used to get rid of her, is telling. Successive Zionist Israeli governments, the Saudis, and the US Military Industrial Complex - now there's the real Axis of Evil for you!

I rest my case - (for now) -

(ps Bushy - I hope you have enough Internet speed to watch these seditious videos)

In the above videos, Indira Singh mentions a website - CitizenWatch.org - which seems to have fizzled out.

Her story is being pursued here at The American Monitor:

http://www.theamericanmonitor.com/

- tons of handy info, annotated, linked etc. Plus items on the US/Iran caper that I have not found elsewhere. Boy, the Iranians are really copping it from the sly-boys. I wonder how Ahmadinejad manages to keep that famous grin going. Maybe it's painted on.

Enjoy!

Bushbred

As a self professed student of history I can only assume you are being duplicitous when you compare Howard to Curtin. Curtin was not a show off but he was way out of his depth. Curtin left virtually all decisions to McArthur, ably (NOT) supported by the ‘Bataan Gang’, to the exclusion of his supposed primary military adviser General Blamey.

McArthur should have been dealing with Blamey as equals. This never happened and McArthur was famously Anti Australian. Where almost all other combined headquarters during ww2 were international affairs, Mc Arthur ensured virtually all of his key commanders were his ‘Bataan boys’ who were with him in the Philippines. Blamey was given Land Forces command but McArthur successfully subverted his authority by working through task forces instead.

That Curtin would consider such an arrogant and substantially lower ranked man his equal, shows how out of his depth he was.

Plantagenet,

Bush was only inaugurated in Jan 2001. The idea that he already had in place huge plans for world conquest by September don’t ring true.