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Team Bush intends to 'transform the Middle East' : Comments

By Marko Beljac, published 17/9/2007

It is becoming apparent, from the actions of the United States, that we could be sliding into a two-front war against Iran and Syria.

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Paul.

As long as you regard that "Indian Marxist" as just an "Indian Marxist", you will never be able to regard him as a fellow human being - possessing an intellect far greater than yours.

As for genocide - what is the magnitude of deaths that you are prepared to draw the line under?

- do give me your best estimate -
Posted by Chris Shaw, Carisbrook 3464, Friday, 21 September 2007 12:07:22 AM
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"Team Bush intends to 'transform the Middle East'"

Whenever you listen to any of their acolytes though - you would think it is OUR world that Muslims are going to 'transform'. This bunch of murdererers have always been very good at accusing the 'other' side of the 'possible' crimes they themselves are DEFINITELY committing.
Posted by K£vin, Friday, 21 September 2007 1:25:52 AM
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Paul.L

as person whom 'feels' for other, giving same importance to this as other considerations in any situation, you wanted evidence to earlier post...

What I wrote comes under 'common knowledge' to whom followed Iraqi invasion and media reporting...bar para about government infiltration by 'vested'interests...which comes under power of 'a reasoning mind' I hold dear...

'a reasoning mind' is the most powerful asset any person has, and most useful, and served mankind well. Its about observing and assessing with hypothesis to test where ones reasoning raises doubts as final filter before accepting anything...your factual observation hold most power to you and over anything else...eg archimedes running naked shouting 'eureka' after 'observing' water in his bath and which led to goldsmith dead for polluting kings gold...to newton and apples...pythogaras observing ship masts to earth not flat but round...

From these came 'principles'...on which science since deciphered the details...to us enjoying technological benefits...and what judges use when legal disputes arise, read some case-laws on court sites on web to see what I mean...

So, now you understand the origins/evidence to my post. I tried to get actual media reportings but couldnt...you would have to go to tv channel libraries, or public library to get see old newspapers...and sbs documentary about how usa 'government' suspended all lawful process in Iraq...then moved 20billion of Iraq money back to Iraq...which mostly 'dissapeared', and now rely on 'no statue law local/international at the time applies' to prevent legal assessment of acts...

with time any hypothesis you test will get settled...just be aware of corporate media...they rely on big fat newspapers with lot of irrelevancy with limited factual information of one area, so in the 15min of your busy day to fit in reading to more likely to make a 'predetermined' conclusion...I read each sentence then assess it before moving to next, time consuming but becomes second nature with time and assisted me well, eg picuture/video of fact holds most value to me, then general fact, and question all opinions and conclusions...

Sam
Ps~noticed hardly any female view posts here, so whats your hypothesis to why...
Posted by Sam said, Friday, 21 September 2007 11:48:05 AM
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Paull, many thanks for the compliments on English expression, but reckon I also should know what I am expressing about democracy when for 12 years I have been taking classes in the philosophy of history right back to the days of Socrates, Plato and Aristotle.

As regards both the origins and principles of the Greek word democracy, find below a test defining the most important persons regarding the growth of our Western democracy.

1. Choose either Socrates or Alexander the Great? Remember that a young Alexander was a pupil of Aristotle.

2.Choose either St Augustine or St Thomas Aquinas? Both were religious leaders during periods of the long Christian Dark Ages.

3. Choose either John Locke or Thomas Hobbes? While Locke’s philosophy inspired England’s 1688 Libertinian Glorious Revolution, Hobbes before Lock was a supporter of the former Royalist autocracy.

4. Choose either Fredriech Hegel or Immanuel Kant? While both were Christian 18th century German tutors, Hegel was one who believed that war was necessary as a cleanser of the national soul, Kant was a follower of the Enlightenment and is said to have been the originator of the need for a multipolar global government to pursue what he called Perpetual Peace. However, though both the League of Nations and the present United Nations grew from his plans, our modern democracies have more preferred the philosophies of Hegel.

Hegel's preference for the matrimonial logic of war, was first given the go-ahead with the breaking of Lock's democratic code by allowing the so-called ersatz English royalty to intrude with a last say, and even more stupidly, the present US President is allowed an even greater last say, both Lock and Kant's dreams of a genuine democracy blown away in the harsh nonsensical political winds, as is happening right now.
Posted by bushbred, Friday, 21 September 2007 4:32:17 PM
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