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A government's duty of care : Comments

By Harry Throssell, published 27/8/2007

Lessons can be drawn from the British response to the Great Depression: Indigenous health needs structural solutions not a quick fix.

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One of the problems facing the provision of services to particularly remote communities is their size. They are often only 300-500 people and not large enough to sustain services such as hospitals and childcare centres. I do support the provision of medical services by way of flying in and out (whether it be doctors in or patients out), but this should be available to anyone in a remote community, not just the indigenous populations. There are plenty of poor white people living in remote areas.

What gets up the nose of the (predominantly) white population is not so much special help provided to remote locations, but the behaviours of indigenous people in rural towns, where they have the same access to services and opportunities as the rest of the population. I say predominantly, because I have met plenty of aboriginal descent who are successful (by reference to the fact that they have a job that they enjoy, they provide for their families and their lives are not marked by personal or substance abuse), who hold the same opinions.
Posted by Country Gal, Monday, 27 August 2007 12:44:02 PM
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Hey country girl, there are plenty of white communities all over Australia under five hundred people who have access to these faciities, because they can afford cars and petrol to travel. Where did they get it from, farming stolen Aboriginal land.

I do however agree with the law and order statement, as an overtaxed Aborigine living and working in the city of Melbourne, many of my Aboriginal friends and I look forward to the day when white trouble makers are locked up for; rioting, fighting in the street, drag racing, drunk and disorderly not to mention murder.

Yet we see them living in taxpayer funded housing which they destroy, then they recieve government funded assistance to fight the courts, that usally end up in a warning. So even the decendants of the first convicts, that I have met that have jobs and are not substance abuser, wife beaters prostitutes or thieves agree something should be done.
Posted by Yindin, Monday, 27 August 2007 2:40:37 PM
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Hi Yindin, there are plenty of white people living in communities that lack the basic services, that have insufficient income (or they would have decent income thanks to welfare but they blow it all on grog, smokes and gambling) to travel to access the basic services. I do acknowledge that the trips may be as short as 400km round trip compared to 1000km round trip that some communities in central Australia may face. Rural NSW faces continuing decline in services to all members of its population - the state government hasnt been discriminatory in its axing of basic services.

I support the equal treatment of all australians. White drunken hooliganism needs to be punished more harshly than it currently is, to recognise flow-on effects. But black drunken hooliganism shouldnt be treated any differently. Things might be a little different in the city or in Victoria. Here in NSW, I currently live in a mid-sized country town. Both sections of the population have their moments. The white population seems to do most of its drinking and public damage at night time (generally on closing time). The black population seems to do a lot of its drinking during the day, gathering in family parks and breaking glass around the playground equipment. Sunday morning seem to be a favoured time. Neither should be tolerated, both damage the community at large, as well as those close to the offenders.
Posted by Country Gal, Monday, 27 August 2007 3:48:50 PM
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County Girl that is my point exactly, it doesn't matter what colour you are, once you break the law you should be made to pay for it. In a big city like Melbourne you just happen to see more white "trouble makers" involved in crime than Aboriginal people. Why because there happppens to be far more of them than Aboriginal people which I suspect is the opposite situation for you.

You have black drunks I have young white sober hooligans who think breaking glass is funny. Tell you what I do I let my dog (staffie) off the lead and he chases them out of the park and it works for me all the time.
Posted by Yindin, Monday, 27 August 2007 4:15:07 PM
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You have black drunks I have young white sober hooligans who think breaking glass is funny. Tell you what I do I let my dog (staffie) off the lead and he chases them out of the park and it works for me all the time.
Posted by Yindin, Monday, 27 August 2007 4:15:07 PM

Yeah how about MP's who think sexual abuse of a minor is funny and

How about the labor states who think the rape of a aboriginal minor in jail is of no consequence, and they covered it up by MP's shredding documents.

How about beattie knowing about this.

Opposition Leader Kevin Rudd was Gossís chief of staff at the time of the Heiner Affair and shortly after took on the newly-created position of Director-General of the Cabinet Office.

So was kevin rudd the shredder who has let justice go for the labor party

Stuart Ulrich
Independent Candidate for Charlton
Posted by tapp, Monday, 27 August 2007 6:33:27 PM
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Country Gal and Yindin,
I think you both are on the same wave length and I agree. Socially unacceptable behavior should not be tolerated by anyone, drunk or sober.

Yindin, I had a smile about you letting your dog off the lead. I don't think I could get away with sooling my dog onto the louts. If he bit them on the bum, the parents would sue me for damaging the little darlins. Thats after the coppers hualed me to court and shot me dog.
Posted by Banjo, Tuesday, 28 August 2007 8:50:24 PM
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