C J Morgan

Re the misspell, yes I did miss that point. Sorry about that.

Logic said: "Muticulturalism does not have to mean separation, it means hanging on to what is good in your own culture and sharing it with others, so that we are all enriched."

Every Western nation that swallowed the suicide pill of multiculturalism is now experiencing problems with social fragmentation and ethnic balkanization. From the UK and the Netherlands to Australia and Canada, a fractured, discordant seething sea of ethnic, cultural and religious tension has emerged, gradually rendering the host nation's culture irrelevant. How does enrich a nation's citizenry?

On the topic of sharing cultures, how has multiculturalism culturally 'enriched' the average Aussie? Sure, one could bang on incessantly about how multiculturalism has segregated our capital cities and eroded Australia's national identity, but what about the tangible benefits? Tell me Logic, what do you know about the teachings of Confucius? Or the Arabic alphabet? Care to tell us your thoughts on the Hindu caste system?

I think you'll find that the great thing about the current form of ideological multiculturalism practiced here in Australia is that it doesn't involve knowing anything about other cultures - all it requires is feeling good about every culture other than our own.

If anything this debate opens up the way in which whites are conditioned to think (or not think) about their (apparent) race, as well as the ways in which it conditions their relationship to nonwhites and to power and privilege.

In the face of this white tendency to demonise Multiculturalism some key questions need to be asked.

o Are whites still good for Australia?

o Have they been living in their white urban ghettos for too long?

o Are they dividing Australia?

o Do we need an assimilation program to ease them into MC Australia?

I've suspected for some time that Rainier harboured racist attitudes, but I guess we all have some confirmation now.

Just some quick questions for Rainier though - would you be so kind as to define 'whites'? Who fits this imaginary category?

Does Australia need these 'white' people (whoever they may be)? Well, the modern nation-state of Australia was created and built by people from Europe, mainly from the British Isles. These people built the cities, towns, roads, railway lines and bridges, planted the crops and transformed arid scrub into the world's food bowl, developed a prosperous economy, transplanted a successful liberal democratic political system, made great advances in medicine, science, art and literature, and, in the process, established one of the richest, freest and most stable nations in the world.

The fact that we are communicating in a North Germanic language originating in England attests to the overwhelmingly predominant role such people played in this nation's development. Incidentially, they were also the first people to introduce a written language to this continent. To put it simply, European civilisation forms the indispensable basis of modern Australia. It's the incontrovertible truth.

Reminds me of that Winston Churchill quote: "The truth is incontrovertible, malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end; there it is."

Dresdend,

You ask me to define this 'imaginery' people but then go about telling me who you think they are (but only in a mythological historical sense). Your appaling knowledge of labour history is one thing, your blindness to your own ethnicity as a 'white person' is quite another.( and yes they are inherently linked)

So for me Multiculturalism is not really about issues relating to non-whites its really about who gets a slice of the big white cake called nationalism. This is conceived of as legal or cultural property where whiteness is seen to provide material and symbolic privilege to whites, those passing as white, and sometimes honorary whites.

Like I said in my previous post we desperately need a program of assimilation to bring people like you into the real world. It would be negligent of us not to.

I think we need to lobby Howard (or Rudd) to develop some legislation that brings xenophobic, paranoid, scared white out of their little white worlds and into the one most people in the world live in.

Lets face it Dresden, this is a world where everyone accepts and knows that only 18% of the world's population are white and they/you desperately need to be bought into the 21st century and not bask in the glory of distant white past that history now tells us never really happened.

Take my hand brother; let me lead you out of the darkness into the light! Don't be scared, my color is only skin deep.

Multiculturalism is fantastic. Unfortunately multiculturalism destroys it.

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