Billie “in this instance you are showing your complete lack of knowledge of the damage that institutional child rearing has done to many individuals.”

An intimate knowledge of a problem is not necessarily a prerequisite to finding a solution.

However, unless we work to put the wrongs of the past behind us, we will remain cripples and slaves to the perpetrators of those wrongs

FrankGol “Not fair, Col Rouge, but morally and legally right.”

Life is never fair Frank, only the virginally naive and intellectually challenged believe it will ever be so. Life is about dealing with the hand you are dealt and making the best of it for yourself, your family and the people you interact with.

Rattles, So, you know how to spell “ass head”.

Congratulations, hurling your low rhetoric at me must make you feel better, I suggest some “counseling” for you on the topic of how to build self esteem would not go amiss.

As for “Myself and my children have always paid our way and taxes , so there is no guilt trip with me only Justis.”

That is nothing less than your public duty and not deserving of praise. But we do have it in common. I could suggest we build on that but I figure, even with the best will and effort, building will not result in sharing a BBQ any time in the next 500 years so, for expediency, take your spleen venting drivel and crawl back under your stone.

Amber your reference to welfare services, compassion and sense of empathy are human traits which cannot be acquired by the “State” , hence all the socialist bulldust about a “caring society” is garbage and why Margaret Thatcher wrote

“We want a society where people are free to make choices, to make mistakes, to be generous and compassionate. This is what we mean by a moral society; not a society where the state is responsible for everything, and no one is responsible for the state.”

And

“There is no such thing as Society. There are individual men and women, and there are families.”

Oh, I see the light- Col Rouge is just such a very clever man!

I think I have got it all correct now- its not the corrupt peoples fault- it was those who were meant to oversight them, but given that, you can't sue the State, you must sue the corrupt one that the State failed to oversight, the very same people the State protected through its failure then, and continues to protect today.

Its just so simple, I think we should all do what Col says and move on.
I am just not sure if I can emulate the same rapid repetitive hand movements Col seems to enjoy excreting in public!

I dip my lids to the Master Stroker, you are a gem Mr. Rouge.

The more I hear, the more I suspect you work (worked) in corrections!

Perhaps all those bankers and other people harmed by criminals should just move on too hey- then we would have no need for police, judges, corrections.

Its just so bloody simple hey- why didn't I think of it?

Doh!

"Free Speech measures the idiot by what he says "

So guess who made the following statement.
And then try to work out why!
Sure as hell has me stumped.
Probably nothing like a good whinge to get the bowls moving regular:

"I support the right of the individual to make decisions which effect their own body for themselves and live with the consequences of those decisions free of interference by the state or anyone else.

Pro Choice is not Pro Abortion, it is "tolerant of abortion". course tolerance, as a much underrated social virtue is not the sort of thing suited to religious bigotry and those who wish to "socially engineer" what is the free will of others.
For instance, the Church of Rome uses sex as a method of social control for its congregation (whilst simultaneously covering up the sexual perversions of its priests) - by imposing rules forbidding the use of contraceptives as well as damning abortion - anyone see the movie about the Irish girls forced into slavery in laundries run by sadistic Nuns, because they got pregnant - a fine message of love and care and tolerance from the church).
Before any religious zealot is fit to demand anything from this secular society they should be able to hold themselves up as free of fault, blame and corruption - which is impossible to do, since they acquired their authority from fault, blame and corruption."

Time to move on me thinx!

For those who are engaging in the status of we got over why haven't you position perhaps you need to look at what the impact of deep trauma has upon people. Wilma's story is not one of trying to acheive monetary gain it is instead her courageuos journey through deep emotional pain from the trauma she experienced as a child and a young woman. Instead of being critical admire her courage in still being here and how she is trying to progress into a positive stage. instead of positioning yourselves as judge and jury try to comprehend just what she has been through. Some of you may have 'worked' through your similar backgrounds but I tend to think that those who say I got over it haven't trully processed their own grief. Why not take on board some of the true issues such as the facgt that Australia has a history of social control through pinishment and institutionalisation and this is now returning through the social policy of today. Winkle

Hirez “ts just so bloody simple hey- why didn't I think of it?”

Maybe because, if reading the quality of your posts is any guide, the bloody simplest of things are quite beyond your limited comprehension.

“I am just not sure if I can emulate the same rapid repetitive hand movements Col seems to enjoy excreting in public!”

At least you adequately demonstrate how vulgarity becomes you.

Well I see you have taken to quoting me. At least that way, you will provide broader and more considered ideas than with attempts at articulating your own thoughts.

As for “Time to move on me thinx!”

Time indeed, don’t bother to close the door on your way out, the air needs to circulate to get rid of your stale odour.

Winkle “For those who are engaging in the status of we got over why haven't you position perhaps you need to look at what the impact of deep trauma has upon people. “

No one can ever walk in someone else’s shoes.

We could all pretend faux-compassion but honestly, all individuals can really do is accept the unfairness of the world and acknowledge that no one gets a perfect run (not even Paris Hilton).

Hence, all we can do is attempt to not just expose corruption and see it punished but also expose those who seek (for whatever reason) to cover-up the corruption of others.

Hirez seems to have some cognitive difficulty with this latter issue.

It is simple, Corruption can only exist where supervision is, at best, negligent or worse, complicit.

Col Rouge, Tuesday,4 September

Col you are a arrogant masturbating arse-hole!

Rattles