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Australia’s nuclear future : Comments

By Helen Caldicott, published 2/8/2007

Australia is in grave danger. The Labor party has joined the Coalition in its open-slather uranium mine policy.

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Perhaps I've a weird sense of humour when I witnessed Mr Downer speaking on the ABC's 7pm news last night where he advised:

"India has an excellent non-proliferation record other than their own nuclear weapons' programme."

Psst.......Randwick, "your solid as can be" IAEA reference site, which you nominated to substantiate your nuclear reactor figures, advises there are NINE operable reactors in Spain. Since you remained asleep at the wheel, all attempts by this "common garden greeny" to alert you to this fact failed and you had to reduce your argument to froth and spittle.

Do you expect the "prejudiced (and) superstitious team" to take responsibilty for your myopic disabilities?
Posted by dickie, Saturday, 18 August 2007 1:49:59 PM
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Since the start of this thread your contribution has been trivial and swerving into inconsequential or abusive
you are obviously technologically illiterate and try to hide it
by making vague comments or personal ones
my proven point of nuclear plants being in widespread use hasn't been either answered or acknowledged , possibly because you don't understand it
read a book , change a light bulb , get a life

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Posted by randwick, Saturday, 18 August 2007 3:53:24 PM
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If even IEA has been of the double meaning, what would the more tricky international issues, the yellow cake involving definitely, have been presenting, LOLs?

I bet, in spite A. Downer’s prophesying, the USA to PRESS-in India and Pakistan into anti-proliferation treaty system. And Australia, a responsible citizen of a world community, will benefit from both nuke-adversaries - as well as from Russia, Indonesia and even Iran!
Posted by MichaelK., Saturday, 18 August 2007 7:21:33 PM
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Randwick ("my proven point of nuclear plants being in widespread use hasn't been either answered or acknowledged , possibly because you don't understand it"). Hardly, whereas
- Wind power has had an average annual growth of about 25% over the past 20
years
- In recent years grid connected solar power has grown annually by 60%
- Renewable energy is now the fastest growing of all energy industries and is worth $54 billion annually, and...

US utilities haven’t completed a new nuclear plant since 1996, when the Tennessee Valley Authority switched on its Watts Bar 1 plant.

The 103 reactors in the United States that were built before nuclear power fell out of favor generate about 20 percent of the nation’s electricity. That number hasn’t really changed in 20 years. Since 2000, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission has granted 44 reactors, including the two in Russellville run by Entergy Corp., 20-year extensions to their original 40-year licenses.
- http://www.nwanews.com/adg/News/198897/

To make even a minor CO2 difference would require ridiculous, subsidised investment and construction in new reactors.

My point being that “If we spread nuclear power abroad to boil water, the flip side of that coin is nuclear weapons. We’d be exchanging global warming for nuclear winter.” - Paul Gunter of Beyond Nuclear.

http://www.votenuclearfree.net
Posted by Atom1, Monday, 20 August 2007 3:21:03 PM
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First and easiest ,
......the 25% growth of nothing much is pretty much nothing much at all ,
second
grid connected solar power
PS10 in Seville is the only large power plant grid connected
it's a thermal molten salt carrier steam generator and the first commercial plant of its type with a nominal rating of 11Mw
and an electrical cost of three times the base cost , but no operational data has been published so far , it's too early
it seems identical to the experimental solar plant of Odeillo build in 1970
there is a large amount of pho-vo cells produced but their field of application is mostly for remote area or marginal generation
none feed the grid yet to any degree

as for Chinese intention ,
Chinese nuclear is planned to go from 6 Gw today to 36 Gw by 2020
wind power installed capacity is 485 MW it make it a production of 200MW at best
in Sinkiang , Uygur region and Mongolia , I have a suspicion that those places are off grid !
from the horse mouth
http://www.iaea.org/Publications/Magazines/Bulletin/Bull461/article6.pdf

here are two pro wind site from Danemark
http://www.windpower.org/media(1775,1033)/engelsk_resum%c3%a9_ea_analyse.pdf
http://incoteco.com/upload/CIEN.158.2.66.pdf

danes are the wind expert with 20% useful electricity fed into the grid ,
they have found that the rate of production is 1/3 of nominal output ( page 11 ..35% )
with a rider that
"When the wind is not blowing on a winter day, prices will therefore rise
when capacity is scarce ,consumption will fall as a result of high electricity price ...
security of supply will be maintained due to falling consumption -
that is , if the market works efficiently "

probably poor people switching off their heating !

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Posted by randwick, Monday, 20 August 2007 11:59:44 PM
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Indonesia will have nuke stations in 2015 and Uranium is on a way from Russia to Iran recently.
Posted by MichaelK., Tuesday, 21 August 2007 1:41:35 AM
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