I will never understand why Hilali was not charged with racially offensive remarks and encouraging rape.
If anyone ever deserved charging it was him.Yet the authorities let it pass over their heads though Australians were not amused at the filth implied.
The two Danny's never said anything as wrong s Hilali yet were taken to court. And that is wrong.

Irfan,

I enjoyed reading your opinion piece from the New Matilda; 'Islam & the West: The Kebab Kaliphate Klub'. Thanks.

So, are you saying that Wassim Doureihi's mob here in Australia are a joke? Or are you saying that HT as a global movement is a joke?

Also, if HT is friendly and benign as you imply why are they being 'monitored' in some countries? The UK did consider banning the sect altogther.

I should also add that the debate as to whether HT is dangerous or not is only part of the issue. Secular people like myself get distressed everytime we hear of religious sects with a political agenda.

It's bad enough having right-wing Christian groups invading the Liberal Party (mainly at the state level) - but now, due to Muslim immigration, we get the dregs of Islamic culture dragged in from the Middle East.

I don't see why secular Australians should have to put up with Middle Eastern religio-political groups invading its peaceful society like some virus.

Quite clearly, Ruddock/Andrews, the Immigration Department, and the Muslim community (as represented by yourself Irfan), are NOT doing enough to combat this particular invasive virus within Australian society. More needs to be done.

Did I mention Tablighi Jamaat and other assorted Wahabi's.........

Irfan suggests:
"All evidence points to the (7/7 London) attack being the work of frustrated children of nominally Muslim migrants."

followed by:

"These young men found themselves in what Peter Costello once described as a twilight zone where the values of their parents' old country have been lost but the values of the new country not fully embraced."

If your theory was correct Irfan, how would you explain the Egyptian "Islamic Brotherhood" the source of ALL modern Islamic Terrorism?

The fact that this revolutionary (assassins) group was borne after the collapse of the Islamic Caliphate in that country; does not leave too much to speculation about the source of their “frustration”.

The only frustration these virile Islamists had was the loss of their "Islamic State" the integral part of their religious identity... they were not estranged in a new culture at all. Their parents and grandparents were still worshipping at the same local mosque as they did for centuries...

Irfan’s defence of Islamic terrorism will continue to have no credibility if he persists – like most Islamic apologists – to disconnect 'Islamic Ideologies' from 'Islamic Terrorism'.

When the educated world can see for themselves that the source of Islamic Terrorism “frustration” is the very teachings of classical Islam – as perpetuated in the holy Qur’an and the traditions of the holiest man that ever lived: the prophet Mohammad...which these young muslims read, study, (no need for interpretation), and are directly inspired from.

Irfan is not the typical “moderate” Muslim he wants us to believe. And dare I say not a Muslim at all – according to the Islamic Sunnah.

Instead of spending his down time at the pub with non-believers; I wish Irfan would be reclining more often at his local Mosque, reading and memorising verses of his holy Qur’an – and maybe, just maybe then discover (for the first time) the root of all evil… or what he prefers to call “frustration”.

Coach

You said:
"When the educated world can see for themselves that the source of Islamic Terrorism “frustration” is the very teachings of classical Islam – as perpetuated in the holy Qur’an and the traditions of the holiest man that ever lived: the prophet Mohammad...which these young muslims read, study, (no need for interpretation), and are directly inspired from."

I agree.
Also, I think a lot of it is about shame, all this apologia by Muhammed lovers. Shame about what Muhammed actually was and did. They writhe and twist all over the shop to hide what he actually did. It's understandable. It is textbook psychology. They feel shame for what Muhammed was and did, so they invent all manner of sophistry to repress this emotion. Some go on to vent their emotion and burn other people's stuff. Some even kill, like what Muhammed had done to poets who critisized his message.

Why can't they admit there is something twisted with Islam and commence dialogue without the neurotic psychology? This would be a more mature way of doing things.
I guess we can live in hope :-)

Dear Friends

directly in line with Irfans article, about the 'mainstream' Mosques in the UK which have been infected with 'Wahabism' you should view this documentary, which is in 6 parts on youtube.

I won't make any comment, but you can draw your own conclusions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peFQWuk4nuo

The following parts of this series can be seen in the window on the web page where this video is being viewed.

The Green Lane mosque is said to be a 'centre of wahabism' so.. the video's should be viewed in that light. Not forgetting of course, what Irfan said himself in the article, about the 'mainstream'ers who control many mosques.

Boaz, please try to understand where this is leading.

This documentary was shown back in January in the UK. It received a number of reviews, most of them remarking on the careful editing and the overt bias of the presenter.

However, this is the comment on the programme that should appeal to you most.

http://englandrise.blogspot.com/2007/01/despatches-undercover-mosque.html

I particularly liked the CVs of some of "the pampleteers". Tasty. And the "Know thy Enemy" list.

Just imagine, Boaz, if you could only generate the same reaction here in Australia!

Think of the slogans you could be responsible for.

"Rise Australia Rise. Observing the rebirth of Australian nationhood. Beat the drums. Call rise the spirits of Ned Kelly, Breaker Morant and Captain Starlight. Australia needs you once again"