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Global warming zealots are stifling scientific debate : Comments

By Ian Plimer, published 26/7/2007

Science is apolitical, and when it has submitted to political pressure in the past, it has been at great human cost.

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TotalEclipse says he is cracking up now that he has discovered our big plasma discharge formation, sunnyboy. Must admit that this has taken quite an effort on my part but I thought we may have been getting somewhere when he found sunnyboy at wiki. My question is ........ Just how do some people (Davsab included) get to be so entirely maladaptive? Just why is it nothing more than literally ..... "I WANT to believe. . . So I DO!"... ? More seriously here, there is this need to not be curious at all and that's where we find the great disconnect ..... the frozen in mindset always preferring presumption/belief/theory over facts. This is where these unfortunates will only find their ego along with the righteousness that facts can be bent or ignored to fit their theory.

My family and friends often wonder why I often post here in some of the OLO forums and perhaps the main reason is the wealth of funny stuff and subroutines that I get to play with that otherwise would never be tried. There are many cognitive benefits and enrichments in play that enhances behavioural flexibility. Picasso and Mozart played all their lives. But there are some unfortunates that do not play, that are fragile, inhibited, stressed or whatever?

Let's try to get the essential features of intrinsic motivation where first one should PLAY before the enrichment of find and ye shall seek.

AND ...
Isn't it the inductive mindset that perceives everything coherently and harmoniously in an overall whole, that is undivided, unbroken and without border, which flows to orderly action and along with it to the creation of an overall environment that is neither physically nor "mentally" unhealthy.

ps
e.g. Top shelf funny stuff like how anyone could get accurate temperatures from tree rings, get so many people to believe it, and rate this above peer reviewed evidence from solar scientists who demonstrate a clear relationship between solar change and climate change.
Posted by Keiran, Friday, 17 August 2007 10:10:27 PM
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Alzo, still waiting for a valid Climatologist to debunk Global Warming and do a sun-dance for us.

Kieran, I know, I know, "It's the Cosmos dude!"

Wow... I think I'm tuning in now. (Yawns and falls asleep)
Posted by Eclipse Now, Saturday, 18 August 2007 10:57:06 AM
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Keiran, you just don't have a clue about research - go join a debating club.
Eclipse Now, REAL climatologists have better things to do, leave the clowns alone.
Posted by davsab, Monday, 20 August 2007 4:19:25 PM
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"REAL climatologists have better things to do, leave the clowns alone"
Clowns? I think you mean Jesters. Oh boy...what a nut, he's just getting worse.
http://www.columbia.edu/~jeh1/realdeal.16aug20074.pdf

ps he is Schmidt's boss...
Posted by alzo, Monday, 20 August 2007 7:53:25 PM
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Alzo, you've attached a paper without any reference to the author's name except to say PS it's someone's boss. Is that because you are trying the 9/11 conspiracy strategy again of trying to engage us in a debate where there is none? Trying to get us to debate all your countless, pointless, invalid arguments when I am merely asking for one real climatologist that disagrees with the prevailing SCIENTIFIC paradigm?

Stop being so annoyingly obtuse and spit it out. Who? Or are you worried that 5 seconds of googling will show the guy retired before the climate debate even began, or used to write reports defending cigarette companies?
Posted by Eclipse Now, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 8:53:21 AM
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Some guy called James Hansen...father of global warming or something. Sounds like he has gone off the deep end as his theory unravels.
Worth a read for chuckles...
http://www.columbia.edu/~jeh1/realdeal.16aug20074.pdf
Posted by alzo, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 9:53:00 AM
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