So the wanabe self-acclaimed pseudo-scientists on OLO want to debate the 'science' in this thread about two very good propaganda films?

What outcomes do you expect Paul, some kind of mass revelation? And for what purpose?

Does anyone want to comment about the "Truth", or who is being "Swindled" in terms of the 'debate' on climate change?

Check out who is telling the truth or being swindled at this link

http://www.highanddry.com.au/extract.cfm

What is your opinion? Do you have any?

I was after some genuine comments from some GW deniers and while the link has been posted elseware, they refuse to comment on Guy Pearse's revelations - the silence was/is deafening, why?

I hope Paul's article engenders more profound comments than that found in a self admiration society.

The genuine experts will continue to critique the science, and their hypotheses will be peer reviewed, in the appropriate fora - not in forums like this.

Journalists have warned of climate change for 100 years, but can’t decide weather we face an ice age or warming. The 100 year old lie.
http://www.inteliorg.com/archive/FireandIce.pdf

In order to be an intelligent reader you must have a basic knowledge. Please do your own homework, a starting point http://www.InteliOrg.com/

The truth and the swindle are all one and the same. No scientist worthy of the name will project a future based on the last couple of decades of record keeping. There is no evidence or proof. It is all hypotheses based on what if models using inconclusive data and an enormous amount of fear. Ask a scientist to work out a model based on what we do know and you get a resulting future that looks just like today only hyper-exaggerated. If all things remain the same and configured for exponential growth in consumerism. What is a likely scenario? Doom my friend, doom. But what about constant advances and changing technologies, biofuels, LNG, hydrogen vehicles and who knows what waiting for tomorrow? Shut up. It's doom I tell ya, dooooom. And ah, I like my steady paycheck from the governmint dude. I get the tenure and the cost of living and the pension, you know. Can't have the wife leaving me for a tradesman. Now stand back while I fire up my new Lexus with the 400hp V8. The family and I are jetting across Europe tomorrow and I mustn't be late.

Gee it is cold this morning.

Where is the global warming when you need it??

I wish you well bushbred, but sadly, from your posts, I gather that you were sucked in by nonsense lovers at University, and saddled with the illusion that the nonsense you imbibed was education.

Education is of little use without the ability to distinguish sense from nonsense.

colinsett for instance, wants to believe that smoking causes lung cancer, but finds that there is no scientific basis for it. He is not just content to believe it purely to feed his love of nonsense. He wants to deride the scientists, who have found that such a belief has no basis. He wishes to inflict his love of nonsense on others, and have them believe it.

What harm is there, in nonsense?

Let us look at a nonsense of the green movement, based on a nonsense book, written about 40 years ago by Rachel Carson, which achieved the banning of DDT, despite a lengthy and thorough official enquiry, which confirmed that DDT was harmless. The head of the EPA announced that his decision was not scientific, but political, and banned it.

The death toll from that decision is at least 30 million, all of them children, who died from malaria. Is Rachel Carson derided? Are the green movement sorry? Rachel Carson, the nonsense writer, remains an icon of the movement. As to the 30 million dead children? The world was overpopulated anyway, according to the greens.

I hope that in 40 years time, if we remember him at all, we look back on Gore as a nonsense talking clown, and not someone who gave impetus to a movement which wrought immense damage on the community, as the global warming myth has the potential to do.

Be grateful for an author like Paul Biggs, and for all authors who disseminate sense.

Tch Tch James H. Haven't you been paying attention?

>>Where is the global warming when you need it??<<

Global Warming has been re-branded as Climate Change, so we don't have to worry about the anomalies any more.

The mantra is "You're to blame, and you will have to pay."

Just get used to it.