Never mind what Coby Beck says - this is what a genuine, published physicist Nir Shaviv says about CO2/temperature from ice cores:

http://www.sciencebits.com/IceCoreTruth

Regards,

Paul Biggs

I don't see the sense of not using a relatively cheap resource because it will eventually run out. It will become more expensive as it becomes rarer.

"Peak oil" will occur when the cost of extraction and production exceeds that of alternatives and will only be recognized in retrospect which is all beside the point.

The IPCC Fourth Assessment Report (2007) is hardly unequivocal about anything except that the climate is warming.

The temperature rise predictions over the century vary from 1.8°C to 6.4°C.

But they are only 90% sure that over 50% of the increase is due to human activity, i.e. up to 50% could be due to other factors.

To a layman (someone who will have to pay dearly for any unwarranted mitigation measures) TGGWS was a fascinating and entertaining exploration of those uncertainties and other factors.

we need to remember the critical issue here: "global warming" (placing humans as solely responsible) is a means to go NUCLEAR.
these debates are but a platform (a convenient truth) to instill fear and confusion in the general public.
(opposing view points, by their design, bombard people to states of confusion,apathy and surrender).

This gov. wants to:

to amp up uranium mining
offer our land to the u.s.a to dump nuclear waste
own indigineous land to mine and exploit for profit
become a police nation

Global warming is real- as is global cooling- which will happen in due course- as history outlines.
we are being programmed to believe that we have to solve this crisis NOW- hence the need for $$, carbon taxes and nuclear plans.
when the u.n get on board...one knows that something is very sinister....

Nick, as an old cockie who has seen a lot of change both in politics and environmental damage caused by greedy ruthless man, would also reckon you have a lot to learn. Further, if you are in fact, a veteran, might wonder where you've been all your life?

Cheers - BB

Quite a number of my posts here in OLO have been critical of a media that simply takes the lazy path of accepting handouts and opinions from perceived authoritative sources, especially when it comes to reporting science. The ABC handling of the Durkin doco should represent the warning sign that there is something rotten to the core here because the specific role of investigative science journalism seems dead and buried.

Dumbo Jones had a trip to England and thought it was glib doing a kiddy job on the messenger. How much more respectful of his audience would it have been to leave the politics/conspiracies and examine the science by interviewing serious scientists from the program like Richard Lindzen, Patrick Michaels, Nigel Calder, John Christy, Syun-Ichi Akasofu, Paul Reiter, Nir Shaviv or Piers Corbyn. Like, just how does it become so controversial to not consider our largest plasma discharge formation, sunnyboy, as somehow being related to changes in climate? or ... Have we reached the frontier of our knowledge and there are no more new mysteries? Hardly, but what about prevalent paranoia.

Frankly, I am perplexed as to why in Australia we seem to have any number of these media jocks (with pommy accents) pushing misinformation in the name of science?

Oh man. Not another denialist article on OLO. If you persist with this crap I'm going to stop reading you.

I haven't seen An Inconvenient Truth but I saw Durkin's work and as far as I'm concerned any claims he made were totally discredited when he omitted the last 20 to 30 years of data and fabricated a few hundred years of additional data to support his thesis.

Claiming that Durkin's documentary has "evolved" is just pathetic. What you really mean is that it's has gotten shorter and shorter as the dodgy bits get cut out. At the rate it's shrinking it won't be long before all that's left is the scene of the girl on the beach.

Incidentally, you supporters of the TGGWS ought to listen to the fawning interview he had with ABC Counterpoint's Michael Duffy. At one point he claimed that Environmentalism was born of resentment by the middle-class at no longer having servants. I kid you not. Have a listen (towards the end) at http://www.abc.net.au/rn/counterpoint/stories/2007/1973934.htm . Michael hasn't gotten around to putting up a transcript yet. I wonder why.