Benjamin

You are advocating the bombing of 275 million people. You are as insane as any radical islamist.

What happens when Tel Aviv is vapourised by Pakistani nuclear bombs after your suggested bombing raid?

Your final solution is absurd.

Yes, war has never solved anything has it?

Except for stopping communism, or totalitarian regimes like Hitler's.

Would you really leave the Iranian version of Hitler in place?

Don't you think Hiroshima and Nagasaki were the best thing that happened to Japan? It changed them from Imperialists into a prosperous, westernised country.

I personally think that it's going to be a nightmare, but when I say bomb I don't mean schools - although you would likely have to given how filthy non-westerners are.

Hezbollah ferrying soldiers and ammo around in ambulances and having command posts in hospitals.

It's a hard ask because the people are so brainwashed they hate us, even though in a heartbeat they would come and live in a western country.

One has to take the decision on this. Iran is a hellhole, the west is not.

I would do anything at all required, sacrifice all the people of Iran even, to ensure their leaders don't get their genocidal hands on western nuclear technology.

Doesn't it make you angry that caveman may get our weapons? Iran wouldn't even have electricity yet if the west didn't give it to them!

Their people have the same potential as any other, but their cultural/religious values hinder this.

Islam is like a lobotomy, the person can't think - not allowed to.

Yes, call me what you want, if I had it my way, the western world would be at war by midnight tonight.

Our enemies are getting bolder by the day, they kill Americans in Iraq. How dare backward filth even be an issue, but because of public opinion we can't do what we need to.

The Russians are smarter. No cameras allowed in Chechyna.

War is ugly. War is neccessary though when we share a world with those who hold outrageous views and values, such as hanging 15yr old girls in public by cranes to a cheering public!

Do you think such people even deserve to live? What do you think should be done? Beyond just attacking those who would actually make a decision that is!

VK3AUU wrote:

"Once the US withdraws from Iraq, there is a good chance that the Shias and the Sunnis will eventually come to terms with their situation,..."

LOL,

That theory will soon be put to the test.

If there were a bookmaker taking bets my money would be on continued massacre.

Just for the record, I want immediate withdrawal of all coalition forces. A futile mission to stop Iraqi factions killing each other is not worth the life of one more soldier, sailor, airman or marine.

The Iraqi factional leaders chose the path of mutual slaughter. Let them sort it out.

VK3AUU
“What makes you crazies think that Al Qaeda will be beaten…..”

Al Qaeda won’t be beaten merely by winning in Iraq, is that a good enough reason to stop the fight? NO. Significant damage can be done to Al Qaeda by winning the war in Iraq, the most obvious is to deny them a safe base from which to operate. Look at what happened when they had a safe base in Afghanistan.

“It is no different to the situation that applied in France during the second world war….”

It’s so different. A huge part of French society actively collaborated with the Germans. The resistance caused few problems for the Germans. Finally the Germans weren’t offering anything the French were interested in. In Iraq a large number of people want democracy, just look at the turnouts to the polls under extreme threat.

“Once the US goes home they will just shift to other countries….”

No doubt that the west will have to fight Al Qaeda elsewhere. Are you suggesting we should surrender to them, let them do as they wish? Winning in Iraq, whilst being beneficial to the Iraqis, will strike a blow against Al Qaeda who declared war on us remember.

“…., there is a good chance that the Shias and the Sunnis will eventually come to terms with their situation, particularly if their neighbors lean on them….”

What? Their neighbors aren’t interested in a healthy Iraqi State. The whole Middle East has a vested interest in one or another group being the dominant force in their area. The Kurds will fight for a homeland of their own and are bound to be joined by their brothers in Turkey etc thus bringing turkey into the conflict. Iran is the major patron for Iraq’s shia groups and seeks Shia dominance in Iraq as a means to consolidated their own power in the region. Al Qaeda and the Sunnis are not going to roll over and allow this to occur. The war, which is thus far contained, could draw in most of the middle east if we left precipitately