I am pretty sure that what Terpstra was trying to point out is that in the past is that scientist have got some things wrong, but the public opinion is driven by emotive debate.

There have been doomsayers around for a long time, predicting the end of the world, which as living proof, has yet to happen.

It like the right kind of prediction made at the right time and pitched to appeal to the public emotion, it then developes a life of it's own and any evidence to the contray is ignore, ridiculed etc.

Sadly once the emotiveness is engaged any attempt at logic is lost and the debate has to run it's course over a few years, until the emotive steam begins to dwindle or a more fashionable fad comes along.

Rains hit Sydney as large (blue SHA anomaly) wastewater plume expands from the coast

Original June 5 SHA map:
http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/phod/trinanes/tmp/sha1181091076.gif

June 6 SHA map, several hour after my post on NSW wastewater emissions:
http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/phod/trinanes/tmp/sha1181179503.gif

The stunning extension of the blue low SHA anomaly( high entropy/low potential energy) in less than a day and the subsequent rains over Sydney are interesting.
The proximity of this sudden SHA extension feature to the coast allows low entropy moisture to condense as rain on adjacent coastal areas because of the second law of thermodynamics. Hence the rain. But this stunt does not allow inland rainfalls as it only affects coastal areas. Further this useless coastal type precipitation has been a long term feature of the drought.

Whether there has been some state or federal government conspiracy to experiment with these SHA anomalies off Sydney is conjecturable. I have reason to believe such experiments were initiated in october 06.

But if I am correct, this stunning event not only shows what is really causing NSW drought but its secrecy also shows the dictatorial attitude that has crept into our so-called democracy.

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Don't you worry about that. Here in Australia .......The Seven Commandments of nation building are written on the wall of a barn in Peter Costello's Canberra for all to read. The most important is "all Australians are equal only some are MORE equal than others.

Some professor said the other day that we, in Australia, are over populated and consuming too much etc etc. He should fly over this country from East ot West , the over population is strangely non existant in most part of this country, no bustling cities, no satanic mills, zero, nothing, nil but a great emptiness.
Our small population clings to the edges of a vast country that is for the most part uninhabitable.
How can we have any influence on a global warming scale.If the earth is warming, it is because that is what it does-when it isn't cooling.
This has become a trendy bit of nonsense and nothing more.

Well Mickijo

We could save ourselves by pollutant industries in Australia, acting responsibly and implementing pollution prevention technology (readily available) These industries are regulated by industry aligned bureaucrats, who conduct their operations by third world standards - unmitigated, uncontrolled industrial pollution.

Clearly, you don't live in a heavily industialised area in Australia.

We could also contribute to other countries, by reducing our pollution, thereby preventing transboundary pollutants leaving our shores to dump on other nations, as well as a mitigation of the pollutants we are dumping into our oceans and on the ecology where these chemicals return to invade the entire food chain.

It's not about climate change actually, it's all to do with anthropogenic pollutants vs human and ecological health.

Mother Earth will survive a climate change - humans are already dropping from man-made hazardous air pollution! And our depleted and contaminated ecological systems are just hanging in by a thread!

Oh dear....I omitted to mention Mr Howard's stirling effort in reducing pollution. All as a result of a reduction in land-clearing. Now that will keep the recidivist polluters happy in the big end of town won't it?

Anyone for a benzene sandwich - followed by an arsenic pie? The lead latte's really nice!

There have been significant changes to Sea Height Anomaly patterns off the NSW coast over the last two weeks of wet and stormy weather.
These changes cannot be validated when referenced to other high population density coastal areas such as the US, Japan, China, India and Sth Africa. Any El Nino changes, for example, ought to affect all areas equally, including NSW. This has not been the case.

What that means is that there is a high probability that politicians (particularly the NSW ALP) are playing with effluent discharges off the NSW coast in order to garner much needed winter rains. They have succeeded with stunning changes to emissions from deep sea effluent outfalls off Sydney (blue streaks on the SHA maps starting at June 6, 2007) which have allowed rains to penetrate the NSW coastline. But the lack of public consultation is of great concern. Especially given the ALP is hell bent on immigrating an unassailable foreign power base in NSW whilst not having a 'Costa' of a chance of creating PERMANENT solutions to ever increasing coastal effluent fluxes and thus drought that rising populations are creating.

But let some ancient Chinese wisdom serve as a warning to the NSW ALP:

"Progress does not follow a straight line; the future is not a mere projection of trends in the present. Rather, it is revolutionary with an intensity proportional to population density. It overturns the conventional wisdom of the present, which often deliberately conceals or ignores the clues to the future."