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To baby or not to baby : Comments

By Tania Andrusiak and Daniel Donahoo, published 14/5/2007

Half a century past the feminist revolution and we’re being sidetracked by quibbles over babies.

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'Women are painted in the image of either the barren, selfish, unfulfilled childless type, the “want-the-best-of-both-worlds” Is this just a painting or is it reality? Has anyone written an article of the rights of the kids to have a mother fulfilling her natural role.
Posted by runner, Monday, 14 May 2007 12:16:55 PM
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maybe the nuclear family is not such a good idea? from the point of view of maintaining the race..

there are alternatives, but corporation culture doesn't want to know about them- "socialism" involved.
Posted by DEMOS, Monday, 14 May 2007 1:00:43 PM
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Runner a woman's natural role is to reproduce the next generation. So following the biological imperative women should flock to strong athletes men for a good quality sperm donation. If survival of the species is measured by the number of grandchildren produced then women must nurture their children so then rich and powerful men become valuable in the gene pool.

There is nothing natural about living in an isolated nuclear family pitted against your neighbours in the fight for scarce car space, space on the commuter train, child care place. Since when is a woman less of a mother to use a nanny or child care? Hmmm well maybe not the quality of care provided by ABC Learning Centres.
Posted by billie, Monday, 14 May 2007 1:23:37 PM
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H'mmm, interesting Dealing With The Mob. I assume you believe servants/nannies in every middle class household aa la most of Asia is a great idea-this would only be possible with mass import of cheap nannies usaully paid low wages which are then repatriated back to the Phillipnes, Indonesia,etc. Your response underlines a problem with this article-the choices women have or do not have are a product of class,income and education. Educated women usually have a choice to work full or part time in well paid careers and are almost certainly partnered up with well educated,career men. Poor women with minimal education often don't earn enough to work after paying for childcare. Others want to work but are locked into welfare traps that result in them loosing benenfits with only earning a tiny wage. I believe a major cause of soaring house prices in Australian capital cities is the effect of the high earning professional couple(with or without children) which are finacially miles in front of the lower income families or single homeowners. The doctor now marries another doctor, not the nurse!! Anyhow off the topic. Women will be successful in AOz politics and I am betting on Gilard as a future Prime Minister, maybe after Kev Rudd. The world is changing-smart blokes are hooking up with smart women- the result smart familes, smart kids. I think the future for men and women is really bright-climate issues are the thing we need to concentrate on.
Cheers
Posted by pdev, Monday, 14 May 2007 2:37:07 PM
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I agree with everything you say.

Having your own children is a tidal change in your life .

You are a different person after children .

Remarks made about your children by single people and people with only one child sharply contrast the difference between Babies or no Babies people and it is no accident that this statement is a generalisation .

Julia Gillard is a bad example for you to choose for a philosophical debate like this . Julia is damaged goods , she is a fanatic frenetic left wing extremist , the middle ground is icily bare , uncompromising .
Julia type people are disenfranchises , the correct or less lonely place for Julia is in the Public Service , the Education Dept is full of Julia's , we send our Kids to School to be educated , then we find left wing dogma in SOSE for example or we find our Kids debating "Who Are We", we have to apologise to Aboriginals for having an Assembly on their land ? Are we really invaders , trespassers or Infidels ?
We need people in Gov. who can control the Julia's of our world , sample the razor suggest to Julia that OBE should be exited from all schools because too many parents and Teachers want that to be so .
Posted by PortoSalvo, Monday, 14 May 2007 2:39:01 PM
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Port Salavo,

Can you make me clear as to what you are on about?? From the weird disjointed rant against left wing teacher bias I'm guessing your a disaffected soul from the burbs and you are really unhappy you do not have enough cash to send your kiddies to a proper private school to escape the brainwashing communists at the local high school. Let me guess, you think Pauline Hanson should be PM, you believe what you hear on ACA and TT and the last thing you read was
A New IDEA??
Posted by pdev, Monday, 14 May 2007 2:49:38 PM
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