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Strong economy should not be at cost of fairness : Comments

By Julia Gillard, published 3/5/2007

Far from re-regulating the industrial relations system, Labor will boost flexibility in a fair workplace.

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wd as an elected councillor are you referring to your council or your private business interests?

I hope it is your business because a 13% staff turnover in 12 months is worrying. I am sure you would have let us know if the business you are a director of had increased its workforce.

Are the employees on different AWA’s or is it one AWA for all new employees and the minority who have decided to change?

I have always had two objections to AWAs under work choices, the removal of the no disadvantage test (partially changed by JH double back flip with pike – over $75,000 you can still be shafted) and the fact that most AWAs are not individual agreements.

If I really wanted to negotiate an AWA with your enterprise, not just accept the pro-forma, how much would it cost you? How much would it cost me?
Posted by ruawake, Monday, 7 May 2007 6:44:30 AM
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While I agree in principal with Labor's removal of Work Choices from the Industrial Relations scene, Non-Union members will not support Labor at the forecoming Federal Elections. Why, when unions want to charge non-members a fee for any gains made by them at a EBA level. If I choose to be represented by a person/company other than a union to act on my behalf during such negotiations, I will challege their rights to charge a fee in the high court. The Union Movement I knew was one that got of their backsides and work very hard at selling the benefits of belonging to a Union. Instead they have given Jack Boot Johnny the ammunition to destroy Labor's credibility at the next federal election by allowing unions to act as stand over merchants.
Posted by southerner, Monday, 7 May 2007 10:29:28 AM
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If a union is to have an enforceable right to charge me for negotiating on my behalf whether or not I am a member of the union; how does the union demonstrate that it has taken notice of my opinion re terms to be achieved?
A union has a choice whether or not to enter a negotion on behalf of a group of its members. If the union does not want to represent free-loaders it can choose not to enter the negotiations. If the union chooses to enter the negotiations it must have judged that the advantages to its members outweighed the disadvantages of having free loaders.
Will the unions accept freely engaged negotiators engaged by a non-unionised worker at the bargaining table?
Posted by 58, Monday, 7 May 2007 12:59:46 PM
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What a load of crock

Strong economy should not be at cost of fairness

The states have already created unfairness

The federal government just followed suit

It seems that fairness was probably not the intention the states had in mind, when they unlawfully and unconstitutional gave away the states rights the peoples rights.

The reason could have been on the hope that at the previous federal election labor was going to win.

So when it comes down to it labor has created this whole mess.
The liberals just took advantage of labors arrogance, but this was also illegal.

www.tapp.org.au
Posted by tapp, Monday, 7 May 2007 2:06:14 PM
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The lunatics have jumped all over this post. Why dont you all just cut the crap. Workchoices is capable off and has done all the things the Unions have said. Even the Lib's have finnally accepted that fact.
"We never meant it to eradicate penalty rates, public holiday's etc etc........" So we are ammending our Laws to protect or provide for compensation. If anybody earning under $150K as an employee swallows this guff and votes once again for Howard they deserve everything the get. They will really see what a bully with power can do. That bully wont be the Union bogie.
Posted by hedgehog, Monday, 7 May 2007 3:37:24 PM
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It was labor that allowed workchoices to happen.

The labor states

the labor party

the unions

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Posted by tapp, Monday, 7 May 2007 3:40:54 PM
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