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Under Labor, 'no ticket, no start' is back : Comments

By Joe Hockey, published 2/5/2007

Its conference showed that the Australian Labor Party is in cahoots with the unions.

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I don't think Mr Hockey has much to fear. Mr Rudd has taken on every other Liberal policy (uranium mining, support for US, no winding back of GST etc etc etc) You can be pretty confident that if he comes to power he will also adopt Mr Howards IR laws. He has just about done that anyway. Mr Rudd knows that despite that the average aussie is far better off economically than ever before. Of course you will always have the unfortunate few who for a variety of reasons will struggle. When I went on a workplace agreement back in 1997 my salary increased by a significant amount. This was also the case with all my co workers (many of them union members). Ten years on they will still tell you how much better off they are.
Posted by runner, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 5:15:48 PM
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Joe here you go again! with no doubt this is no failure to understand Labors IR plan.
It is clearly a LIE.
Not unlike this governments past history LIEs are that plausible denial the government trades in.
Lies under another name.
If for no other reason Joe than the fate of your party on election night .
TELL THE TRUTH!
just once
workchoices went too far.
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 5:27:39 PM
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I am sorry - Joe is laboringhard to make another foolish point - sure Combet saw the revised policy prior to release are we to beleive CEOs of peak employer organisation weren't involved in the drafting of work choices? Christ on a bike! it is about interests and influences.

The union bogey man may have had some mileage and relevance 20 years ago but not today.

The argument about the miners is an absolute furphy as well - miiners have long been the highest paid of Australian workers - for decades they have inhabited the ranks of the top 5 highest average earners along with GPs the other militant union group - miners were well paid in trhe hey da of the unions and theye are well paid under AWA and their condition will sstay the same under any now regime -

the body politic should stop right now listening to the politicians - simply look at the policyt look at the impact and make u your own mind - the economy has boomed under the old IR regime and the new - Howards crowing about the impact of IR laws on the economy is a fabrication - their is no causal effect at all - the same goes for employment level - sheeesh!
Posted by sneekeepete, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 6:58:17 PM
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Stuart Ulrich The Boss and founder of The Australian Peoples Party will more than likely see more of Greg Combet as he comes to Charlton a safe, we will see.

If i have to run as an independent i will.

enough is enough

People from our own electorates should represent us not someone who is sent in to represent their own party and interests.

www.tapp.org.au
swulrich@bigpond.net.au
Posted by tapp, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 7:15:35 PM
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Geez Joe, welcome to the Forum. A bit like the Coluseum and your the Christian. You must know that AWA's disadvantage some, just as they advantage others. Give the disadvantaged protection.
Labors policy should change to allow modified AWA's as well.
If Howard is ante-diluvian then any move to reinstate a Centralised wage fixing system is a barren beast that should have missed the Ark.
As a subbie in the NSW building industry, I can tell you, nobody has missed the unions and their disruptive,corrupt behaviour at all, and I've not heard anyone who wants them back.But the way the industry works, both you and Lacor are both pretty irrelevant.
There's an awful lot of generalisation going on on both sides of this debate;not very helpful.Too much fear and loathing.
At least both sides agree that some flexibility is needed, but both have gone too far. I am worried just how far Rudd would go given the chance-he's still a bit of an unknown quantity.
But based on what we do know your comments are over the top.
Come back soon
Posted by palimpsest, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 7:43:29 PM
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None of you no-good lefty peaceniks understand. You just don't get it.

Don't you know that unions are evil? Really evil. I'm mean, they're all about power. Power, power, power. Sure, they're run by members for the benefit of members, give voices to the voiceless, and enable employee's to bargain on an equal footing with employers.

Sure they may be responsible for the 40 hour week, OH&S laws, minimum wages, maternity leave, and many other gains in IR. But they've stood in John Howard's way! They stand up to large employers! Evil, bad unions!

Good on you Joe! Don't let those pesky unions get in your way. After all, the only way to keep a strong economy is to remove all fairness and equality from the workplace. As a matter of fact, let's go one further. We could complete with China on a much more equal footing if we re-introduced slavery.
Posted by ChrisC, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 8:26:11 PM
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