"We know about militant Union behaviour and standover tactics of the bygone era just as we know about the ruthlessness of some Employers that fostered such behaviour" says maracas.

Well really. That comment demonstrates just how confused you are about the Union debate. Because, we are in the post industrial era, leaving all that debate behind. And because, you Say you know about Union brutes, but yet you give em a big hug. So you arent really all that bright; or else you Sir aint been near a Unionist.

As for Sirvivor, well here is a Student Unionist. This person is irrelevant in all contexts, because his/her hell house has been abolished (as it deserved); and because he/her is a muesli muncher.

Finally, what is a 'workers' job, but to turn up and perform work. Where does all the other drivel espoused by union lovers such as national economics, socialism at the work place, sex in the political ranks, and all the other spewmongering, come into workplace activities?

I make it known to all- you are being led around by the nose as the Union movement causes you to be distracted by socialist concerns at the workplace. It makes you all bitter spiteful people, in a land with the best working and living conditions money can by.

All Unionists and their lovers ought bow your heads in pure shame.

Gadget

If you think a workers job is "but to turn up and perform work" you show your total ignorance of the modern workplace.

I am sure if you asked employers the overwhelming majority would be horrified to think their workers just did this.

A progressive workplace values the input of all its employees, who knows better how to improve a work role than the person actually doing it.

A recently privatised company has 9,000 people on the IDENTICAL AWA, this sure looks like a collective agreement to me. Except the 9,000 individuals had no say in the content of this agreement.

I suggest you try eating muesli it may curtail your fecal manifestations

I have had others "play the man" before, but no-one has ever been so perfidious as to call me a "meusli muncher".

I can arguably infer that gadget had, as I suggested, not read any of the posts, but simply knee-jerked into "post" mode.

It makes me wonder whether Joe FoosBall and/or JWH ever have the odd bowl of meusli.

The Federal Government had almost a dream run towards the end of the last election; they didn't need to divulge their mean and nasty "Work Choices" legislation.
Clearly the Howard Government is running scared now so they are supposedly tweaking "Work Choices". Incidently, Mr. Hockey was very specifically asked last Sunday morning on a tv intervew whether "Work Choices" was going to be modified. He said "no", so either he was lying, or the Coalition is making policy on the run.

You've exposed yourself with that last post Gadget.
Personal vitriol towards contributors is the last refuge of a scoundrel. Perhaps the latest damage control of your idols in seeking to amend their vicious 'Work Choices' to present it as an acceptable alternative to a fair go might give you some insight into the reality that the proposals are unacceptable to Australian Workers who are supporting the lead they have received from Australian Unions.

Well Pericles you had a chance to actually do something but it appears you pass on that opportunity. As Howard would say, "No ticker".

You agree it is highly relevant to use this opportunity but choose silence. Oh well, don't complain here about politicians anymore as clearly you really don't care at all. Time for action Pericles, not dribble.

The things you are suggesting have been raised many times over many years but only by a few. I am one such. Will you continue the ointless whining or actually do "something"?

You have the relevant Minister as your rep and yet you choose to whinge here about what he does and doesn't do. Why?

Before you turn it around and accuse me of doing nothing I have written to my "drover's dog" about this very issue. And got nothing, not even a courtesy response. He's Labor and doesn't have to do anything yet does he? Hockey? Different story. He even goes so far as to put his name to the drivel he calls his here on OLP. Go for him Pericles. I'll draft it for you if that's too hard mate.

Is that what you want for all of us? Nothing?

Then go ahead and just keep doing what you are doing, all of you here. That is, nothing. Just passing wind really.

I suppose I should thank you Pericles for seeing the light but really, what's the difference if you just sit on your hands?