DEMOS so i take it from your comment pollies should only be from upper class

nothing you can do about it. being australian, there's nothing you can do about anything. politics is not for your class, my girl, it's a reserved occupation, pollies only.
Posted by DEMOS, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 3:41:10 PM

Belly
Now we are getting somewhere
what are you going to do if workers can only strike and that is after a secret ballot and during the bargening period.

Like i said a partial piece, this is unacceptable especially if something goes wrong.

The conferance will tell which are the bad union reps as they will accept, a partial decision about strikes
but as you know if something goes wrong the the crap will hit the fan.

As for my political way I say it as it is, so if you dont like it stiff as no pandering here.

Frank Gol

That will be with a size 8 1/2gp boot, with pride and respect.
At least the electorate of charlton is where i live so to bring somebody in from elsewhere, well that goes to show what Greg Combets electorate think off him.

My electorate,my suburb,my community,my neighbourhood,my street now that is the difference.

I live here with the common folk as being one of them, so who is better to represent them someone from the upper class.

No wonder this country is in so much crap.

www.tapp.org.au

Communicat, well said. Far too many folks these days unwilling to take up the responsibility for their lives and welfare. The backlash has already been enormous with a lot of possible employment going elsewhere to establish their workforce. Who's going to hold up the welfare state once things get so unbearable that the fast food chains have to charge $15.00 for a happy meal? Welfare will never be able to afford that extravagant lifestyle. What would that make the price of a loaf of bread?

That last post highlights that we do not always understand the issue.
Happy meal? is the writer aware that those kids working weekends have suffered very badly as a result of workchoices?
overtime no longer paid?
Or that single branches have $40.000 hours? yes take that much in one hour.
And the views amount to saying a worker must control his/her wages but some in business can increase income without fear.
A workers right to strike is needed and will be returned you can bank on it.

The right to strike could be taken back by the workers of this country tomorrow if they so wished. All they have to do is stand together nation wide and down tools so that the whole country comes to a standstill. I guarantee the politicians would panic and give them want they want in the face of so many angry voters.

When this is achieved and they go back to work, if any employee or union is penalised they should again down tools nationwide and stand together until these penalties are withdrawn. How much exploitation and hardship will it take before that happens? We'll have to wait and see won't we. Things turn full circle. Unions didnt form originally because things were good for the workers. Workers were forced to act out of necessity to feed and house their families.

A member of my family is a manager who hires and fires people and doesnt like the unions. Also likes the new dismissal laws as doesnt like deadwood employees. However in conversation with me a couple of days ago related a story had heard of a top executive earning $100.000 who was dismissed and a new person given their job on a salary of $50.000. Even top management are nervous about these new IR laws as they can see that it could be used against them as well.

Belly we understand perfectly. We understand the net result on not only employment but the net result on the increased cost of living and the increased cost of the basic purchase price before tax, and we understand the cost of living after taxation.
You can quit your job and seek other employment anytime you like. Vote with your feet. Using Unions to hold hostage the people who created the employment has had it's day. India is creating entire economic zones and special taxation packages just so those companies will open shop there. What do you think the difference in the size of the labour pool is? What do you think is the difference in labour cost will be? Unionist never stop to consider the changing world and that they may just have out priced their usefulness.
I'm not anti union. I'm just saying the world is a different place than it was 20 years ago. Careful your not left behind. Every job that leaves Australia is gone from Australians.

Aqvarius keep to your path! do not let the light of true understanding enter a disturb your views.
That is the fault of your leader Short bottom Howard.
It is the very reason he is leading the lemming rush to this years election.
With no doubt at all workchoices took away human rights that even some near third world country's give workers.
Yes some reform was long over due, some extreme and radical actions of some unions asked for trouble.
But do you truly think we can only build prosperity by taking it away from so many who work?
Is in just a few generations the Aussie fair go to die?
Have the words of the founder of modern Liberal party in relation to fair wages and the right to union representation been forgotten?
John Howard is nothing less than a mockery of the man he built himself on Sir Robert Menzies.
And Australia is about to find true reform and fairness returned to IR.
Saddest of all? Howard has miss managed our foreign policy the AWB and almost everything he has touched and only now his once followers are becoming aware of it.