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Quiet obedience can never serve Labor MPs well : Comments
By Barry Cohen, published 20/4/2007The ALP's 'tactics committee' decides the questions that will be asked and who will ask them. Not the ALP Members.
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Posted by mickijo, Sunday, 22 April 2007 3:47:31 PM
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Kevin Rudd doesnt need me to trash him, he does that well himself.
Seems like Labor is about big business and now seems to be sucking up to america even after all his australia-american buddy system too much. AWB you have forgotten about centenary house and the royal commission that found labor inept. Labor organised that for the party to get them out of dept and screw the people. What did that cost australia for those few works from team murdock. labor for the workers no not anymore. at least i can say what is wrong and you too scared from expulsion. www.tapp.org.au Posted by tapp, Sunday, 22 April 2007 5:13:06 PM
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The problem with the system is that as individuals we are worth nothing. The system is not obligated to treat us with compassion and respect. If we have an issue or a problem with the system as individuals our complaints don't count!
In the Ombudsmans Website it explains how they decide what complaints to investigate in part it says: What happens to my complaint? We will give your complaint careful attention. In most cases we will telephone the agency or person involved and ask for an explanation. Most complaints are resolved at this stage. If we are not satisfied with the agency's response we may decide to investigate further. As we do not have the resources to investigate every complaint, we give priority to serious matters - especially if they may affect other people. If there are reasons why we cannot take up your complaint, we will tell you. http://www.nswombudsman.nsw.gov.au/faq/index.html#whocomp The Investigatory process has to wait until there are other people seriousy impacted and there is a disaster before they are required to act! The individual is worth nothing. So much waste. http://jolandachallita.typepad.com/education/ Our children deserve better. Posted by Jolanda, Sunday, 22 April 2007 9:39:13 PM
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As expected Belly just rattles on about nothing and states the obvious without actually saying anything.
Any more secrets you are holding to the grave Belly? Just like a schoolkid who shouts "I know something and you dont". Frankly Belly you continue to demonsrate that no matter how much you are taught, how much information you are given, you learn nothing. Posted by RobbyH, Monday, 23 April 2007 9:06:41 AM
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Jolanda you are so right and you have a RIGHT to speak-out-rightly about your concerns.
However, please continue to speak up. The point is "individuals" are worth everything. Please do not give up. Why? Apathy breeds more Apathy! Tapp is right about one thing... "Politics is about Power." More to the point ; Politics is about everyday life. Yes that's right... something we ought not to miss. Power comes from the BOTTOM not the TOP. Yes that is true. We are being asked to participate, become engaged, responsible. "Make" communicating with government a two way process. Make your business the govenments business. With the Complaints office, did you ask to speak to a supervisor. I mean if you are feeling that your complaint needs attention, make sure it gets the attention it needs or deserves. If that does not work send the complaint to the Attorney General and State or Federal Leaders. Ask to speak to their Policy Advisors or something that you feel might be effective. If you still get no satifaction then go PUBLIC. I mean it Jolanda, don't give up. The problem we have at present is not only with representations and leadership... it is ADMINISTRATIONS. For me I see it as "Individual make up Government Administrations, and this is where the major change needs to occur". Put it another way.... whats the point of having local policies like building capacity, empowerment, self-determination when civilian efforts are nullified.... in all the ways you yourself said. Good work Jolanda, I felt you made a very important point. http://www.miacat.com . Posted by miacat, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 12:54:33 AM
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Thanks Miacat. The biggest problem is that the process and culture is set up to cover up and to not afford an individual procedural fairness or natural justice so that the Governments reputation and the reputation of those involved is the reputation that is protected, that process is used throughout the system so no matter what you do or who you turn to you cannot get help.
I did contact Opposition Federal Ministers and they said that they didn’t have the power or resources to investigate individual complaints and that because the matter had been closed they could do nothing. It mattered not to them that it had been closed in a manner that was unfair and unjust. I tried a Labor Federal Minister and he told me amongst other things the following: 1. That nobody would believe me because everybody knows that mothers are biased! 2. Not to bother going to a Solicitor, as they would just take my money. 3. It didn’t matter what evidence I had, that it wouldn’t be enough. What he said has been true. The Solicitor took my money. People choose not to believe me and, although I have the evidence that clearly shows that I am saying the truth, nobody in the system is required to look at it or act on it. The power is with those you accuse, if they don’t confess then nothing happens. The biggest problem is that my mail was and is being intercepted and sent to those that we allege are responsible in the first instance and then they write to those that I am writing to with their version and with the documents that they want to present. I know this for a fact. The whole system is a farce. The Media, well they already know and they dont seem to feel it important enough to care. We are ONLY individuals. Posted by Jolanda, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 9:48:15 AM
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If we had true democracy it would not be a case of Tweedledum and Tweedledummer, we would have Citizen's Referenda, we would not have states versus Federal governments, we would not have minor parties who do nothing to earn their very good living. We would have committees or panels who were answerable to the public and who had to be responsible for stuff ups.
We would have Democracy or as near as it possible to achieve.