Shanno: Okay, I asked, you said No, so that's done and I'll expect the occasional rocket.

However, I still don't see the point of accusing the Xians, or theists generally I suppose, of being deluded. Especially if you don't take the trouble to establish that they're deluded. It's just name-calling, isn't it? For Forum, read Creche. Anyway, it's your rage, and I suppose you'll direct it where you will.

I agree with Boaz - as it is not convenient for me to rip into his arguments just now :). A democracy under the control of a particular group - in this case, people like yourself Shanno if you are an identifiable group - who determine who can and can't participate is a strange democracy to recommend. I know democracies are actually like that, but to recommend it is strange - especially when the people you propose to exclude are a part of the discussion. Or, perhaps it's to your credit that you're not very good at megalomania.

Did I hear the bleet of the latest offering for the pagan festival - indeed it is; its goodthief himself. You have my view of your contribution to this forum and your place in its virtual reality. Lets extend your profile a little.

Firstly in keeping with the thread, lets look at little goodthief in his chosen user name. If you look to the thread, you will find a argument that the myth of a good thief is under doubt for historical reasons. Now, I realise in the mealy mouthed rubbish that they pump out of Hillview that reasonable doubt is beyond comprehension but there are some of us oldies that believe in the old sciences of philosophy, history and politics.

But I diverge; what does this paradox of a user name mean about the personality behind it. Well, our bleeting lamb is goodthief, who has offered himself up in this public arena beside his lord to endure his pain (that will be an absolute pleasure in your case) and provide solace to the lord and master at the end. My heart bleeds.

'I agree with BOAZ - as it is not convenient for me to rip into his arguments just now' Strangely enough I respect BOAZ, he is a battler like me who has developed his views from life's experience. But a pimply little nationalist youth leader, contemporary christian style; starts to stretch my sense of humor.

Your slimey reference to sub culture and general pomposity, is going to make you a very tasty bit of lamb indeed!

Boaz: The line that has offended Netab on your behalf was a throw back, and across, to the welcome which you extended to me on 22 April at 6:32:39pm on "Why Hilali must go, and go now". I remain grateful for the welcome.

This item is a great example of people reading something that is not there. Where did Hicks come from? Not from the author. Just imaginations of some.

Sharkfin displays a level of knowledge not claimed before, anywhere, anytime. His statement re Jewish priests, I must ask how the clergy of other religions survive? Exactly yhe same way Sharky.

Aqvarivs, the word of God would have been written by..... God. The Bible wasn't. It wasn't even written within a hundred years of Jesus's life. Not that he died when the Bible says anyway.

If the Bible is the gospel truth Aqva, where is the rest of the Earth's history? Oh, sorry, it just appeared 2000 years ago, right?

Gospel truth? Give us a break Aq. No man ever writes the truth about anything poitical and Jesus was certainly a political problem. You certainly don't and neither do I. Why? Because we don't know the truth of course.