Bushbred

I don't think it will be long before you see Mr Rudd heading off to those evil Hillsong Christians. I mean fancy the 20000 or so Hillsong people worshipping God, helping the poor, promoting family values, reaching out to the street kids. I mean having an academic been involved in this malicous behaviour would be frightening.

By the way I have never been a member of Hillsong and probably don't agree with all its doctrine but the envy or venom shown by many uninformed people regarding this successful church is incredible. Maybe you would be happier if Hillsong was a church of 20 people over the age of 80 years old just hanging in there.

Sheesh. Maybe Bill's comments are over the top, but seriously, anyone caught toting guns for the other side in wartime used to be executed as a traitor. Now, some may say that's not necessarily the case, but he was caught in a foreign land fighting or at least aligned with the enemy then how can we avoid the reality of the situation - there isn't any nice spin that we can put on it. And if that's the case then why should we be expecting a legal case to be mounted in his defence - prisoners don't have legal cases - at best they rot in POW camps.

Justice. Is that the basis of your arguments? Then I would say that if it was a civilian situation and if he were not caught redhanded as it were, then maybe a miscarriage of justice worth protesting against. But that's not the case. I must be missing something here. It seems to me that he has even confessed his allegiance with our enemies for goodness sake. I can't imagine what he's gone through but he's brought it upon himself and should be glad that he's alive. He should be counting his blessings that he will get a trial, though it is such a political circus and will be more farce than anything, whatever the outcome.

Fellow Australians, let's find a more appropriate cause to defend and spend our time arguing about. There is far more injustice in this world worth caring and fighting about than asserting this foolish and/or misguided man 's personal rights over the collective rights and good of our country and its citizens which he, by his own admission, turned his back on and sought to undermine.

Em: "don't refute the facts, attack the author"

What facts? This miserable excuse for an article consists almost entirely of Muehlenburg's fantasies and suppositions.

Which is, of course, why it has been so roundly derided by those of us who have more than half a brain :)

Here we go, Bill Muehlenberg is not a 'proper academic' (Read 'he disagrees with leftist ideology and the party line)...Why would online opinion allow his opinion? er...well because it is called online opinion and not online leftist propagandist party line...Just wait til the left finally get into power...I can just imagine what you're dying to do with all we dissenters who believe that David Hicks is, in actuality, a traitor, and that, he really, truly deserves punishment, and that his short bout in prison is, unless of course you can't see that the emperor is wearing no clothes, way too short for the murderous, cowardly individual that he is.
And of course, the inevitable shrieking "It's all those Christian-Right-Extremist-Hillsong-going-non-intellectual (insert here any number of other buzzword labels you wish though I think I've covered the most popular)
Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't necessarily mean they're wrong.

it's not a question of whether muehlenberg is a proper academic, it's a question of whether his article has any facts or reasoning whatsoever. if so, i simply can't see it. his post is a pointless, snide, humorless and thoroughly dishonest piece.

you hicks-haters can go on as much as you like about hicks being a traitor. it may be true, it may not be true, but your opinion regarding hicks is totally irrelevant: it simply isn't the point. any time someone wants to make a point about justice, or morality, or openness in government, or the lack of reasoning of a hicks-hating poster, you simply change the topic and whine about how evil hicks is, and how stupid the "left" is, whatever the hell the "left" means. it's so pathetic it's beneath contempt.

Can’t argue with that summary Rumplestiltskin;

You could say ; if you disagree with Leftoids, then there is a 99.99999 % chance you are correct in any found assumption.
Here we have a total demonstration that the Trope Theory and the Metaphysics of appearance, fully enacted.

Proletariat army and all.

With some of the commentary, any reasonable person would think Bill was the convicted Terrorist under Leftoid Trope theory; and Mohammad Darwood was a poor miss understood victim of Allah Indoctrination and those dastardly Christians- and dare I slip in Jews.

If anything, People will now learn about Trope Theory; have a good giggle

And the S A Labor Premier is cute in asking the department of Foreign affairs if it will be safe when Darwood is released from prison.
Fairdinkum.