Where do they keep coming from, these Leo Lanes, these warriors of high cliche, these idelopgical ignoramuses? No ideas, no understanding of the fact, no comprehension of the context, but fully loaded with the tired old cliches thrown at those who disagree - 'the Howard haters' and 'the rabid minds of the left'.

With not an idea to rub between them, they trot out the old discredited stuff: 'Hicks was not a prisoner of war entitled to the benefit of the Geneva convention'; 'he should have been tried by court martial forthwith, but there were difficulties with evidence, so it was deferred'. One out of ten for comprehension, two out of ten for clear expression; ten out of ten for blind ignorance.

Judging loyalty to yesterday's cause to be paramount, they are above the truth, and insist that Bill Muelenberg is absolutely right even when Bill himself has long ago conceded he went way over the top. "The couple of [wait for it!] facts mentioned in the article were obviously true, the rest was opinion, to which the author is entitled." Yes Bill is entitled to his opinion even if it is daft and most readers can see it's bulldust.

Truth doesn't matter - what's important is to stick up for your side of the ideological divide. Bill shows the way by censoring comments that raise awkward comments on his website. And his rent-a-fact-club cheer with their mouths and minds wide shut.

And then, without a blush, they accuse the people who disagree with them of being 'incapable of clear honest thought'.

Still living the lies of the Howard regime, they go on the attack against those who even 'when the children of the illegal aliens finished up in the water [sic] through the criminal actions of their parents or their associates, raised a quibble about the expression “thrown overboard”'. Truth and compassion overboard, eh Leo! Beats thinking and using the facts - that's way too hard, mate.

now THAT i enjoyed reading!

Ludwig,
Re; Hicks apparent contradictory allegiances/ statements :

Mindful of Ockhams Razor - let me offer a different explanation.
( one that doesn’t require psychoanalysis or adolescent hormonal imbalances)

In Germany of 1941 most people were Nazi/Hitler supporters
In Germany of 1945 most people were not.
Put simply, everyone likes to be on a winner…

When the Taliban was rampant Hicks was a loud, proud Muhahadeen.
When the Taliban were vanquished, & he was in enemy hands, he was a poor cobber who had wandered off the beaten track…

Thanks Cranky Frankie, I realize it is of the utmost importance to maintain a healthy sense of Humor, but like most things, there is a limit.

If I may ask you to indulge for a moment; and have supplied a few links to publications relevant to your humorous outburst; and if I may also indulge in some deductive observations; that you may well benefit from these E books.
I like to think some Intellectually minded people possess the ability to possess truth in a manor relevant to that displayed by Sherlock Holms, and not Heinrik Himmler.

Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus: By Ludwig Wittgenstein: http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/5740

Carveth Read, , 1848-1931 : Logic : Deductive and Inductive : http://www.gutenberg.org/files/18440/18440-h/18440-h.htm

DEDUCTIVE LOGIC BY :---ST. GEORGE STOCK, M.A. PEMBROKE COLLEGE, OXFORD:
http://www.gutenberg.org/dirs/etext04/8ddlg10.txt

And if you enjoy this service, although it is free, please consider the costs and efforts and act appropriately : Something Old timers would consider calling ; “The Honor system.”
Enjoy.

As its Easter I think we should so some respect. Some of these comments are great and a bit funny too which is always good.
But Honest the posts that support this traitor should at least wait until after Easter.
Its honestly making me feel sick to read support for this low life who turned his back on our God.
Please dont write that crap of Easter Please.
Its too upsetting.
If you want to do something thats Churchy go to the post on the Salvos.
Just people always remember their is a difference between our lord and people running the Church.
If the people running the Church are not folowing the lords wishes then they should be exposed.
Getting back to Hick The Dick Really everybody its Easter Sunday.
Lets leave it until after Easter and show some respect for our lord and our country.

Please

David Hicks has been stupid to the Nth degree; those who take a black and white attitude I believe, just do not understand that what happens to David Hicks and others in the long run has an impact on us and our children. If we accept third rate justice for one, then in the long run it can come back to haunt us. If Hicks had been tried in the same way as an American citizen then we cannot murmour. If there had not been a new tradition of torture, rendering and use of hearsay evidence with limited powers of defence; then reasonable people would accept any judgement made against Hicks.

There have been laws made in relation to fellons not profiting from their crimes; in other words the whole tenant of Mr. Muehlenberg's article is based on a false premise.

Bill Muehlenberg's outrageous comments do reinforce my distrust in so called Christians. His comments do not belong to the Christianity I was taught at school eg Sermon on the Mount, and story of the Good Samaritan. I believe if Jesus was about today he would be overturning Mr. Muehlenberg's table as well as the tables of many other Christians. Love and forgiveness I believe underpins pure Christian thought.

Mr. Muehlenberg makes an almost slanderous comment when he says: "First, how soon before the Labor Party invites Hicks to be their next star recruit, their next celebrity candidate? Eventually the supply of unionists and ABCers will dry up, and the exciting new category of “freedom fighter” can be tapped into."
Where is the ethics in making a nonsense loaded comment against the Labor Party? Given that Mr. Muehlenberg teaches Chritian ethics; where is the Christian content in the above comment.

I do not belong to the Labor Party, and have never done so in the past.