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The people of New South Wales have lost : Comments

By Jonathan J. Ariel, published 27/3/2007

Twelve years of hard Labor is too much to bear. Sixteen years is truly cataclysmic.

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Just goes to show how the people like Belly just don't have a clue.If the Liberal Party performed like Iemma's Govt I would vote in a credible Labor one.

Belly will back trash no matter how much the stench reeks in his abode.Sadly our Govts do reflect a fair percentage of our pop.
Posted by Arjay, Wednesday, 28 March 2007 10:55:07 AM
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Its not actually been much of Labor vs Liberal, so much as Dumb and Dumber. If the Opposition had looked credible, it would have waltzed in at the election, based on the performance of the Govt. But they look like just as big a bunch of drongo's, in which case its usually best to stick with the devil you know, unfortunately. The same story goes federally. If Rudd can show some genuine and beneficial policies, then we might get a change (which incidentally despite being a conservative voter, I dont think is a bad idea). If not, then I'll bet that we get Johnny back. If we do, I hope he loses his senate majority.

Its interesting times.
Posted by Country Gal, Wednesday, 28 March 2007 12:03:29 PM
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Ajay in your post you highlight the views I have posted here you both undervalue my vote and over value your own.
Is it not clear that rubbishing the way I vote is no answer?
I have indeed voted against the ALP while a member of that party, it was my considered opinion the conservatives lie just as much as any party during the election.
That the major Medea was shameful in its one sided biased miss use of its power.
That the Howard hand picked leader of the conservatives had worse policy's than Labor.
That his team was not worth risking.
And that while so very many in the Labor party even front bencher's did not deserve to be reelected our leader had the best chance of turning the state around.
After thinking it out in detail I voted for the ALP , so too did most in NSW.
Is conservative NSW to get behind its new leader and form policy's that can be sold to voters? or are they like Ajay going to claim they never lost it was just idiots like me who did not think straight?
In my presently held and considered view workchoices will not let me or Australia support the small gentle man who thrives on lies in the up coming federal election Ajay may care to prepare his defense for another loss now.
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 28 March 2007 5:16:57 PM
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I voted (after the greens) for labor because I am frightened by the fundamentalist religious right who seem to have taken over the State Liberal Party.
These people want to run my life according to a 2,000 year old story/potted-history book.

I am also very annoyed at Federal liberals work-place-laws and extremely cranky that my GST taxes are being used to stoke the fires of the Qld and WA economies. We (NSW)must be about 2 Billion down by now.

The Feds say they are good economic managers, crap.
What sense is there in stimulating economies (WA Qld) already on the boil? The Reserve Bank just has to put up interest rates further punish those in NSW and other states.If the money was going to Vic tas and SA and NT I would not care as much.

As one wit said, he wouldn't mind all NSW money going to Qld if they would send us a little card and photo occasionally telling us how they were going at school, building the village pump, etc

I don't believe the liberals have any compassion given their treatment of David Hicks and refugees. They do not respect the rule of law habeas corpus and civil rights. They are a glorified fund-raising, influence-peddling, social club.

I don't see the need for a massive "Future Fund" (weasel words)for politicians and Public servants pensions. What is the Commonwealth Super Fund for?
We are being overtaxed and our money is being miss-spent. I would quite happily vote for a "Future Fund" for education, health(inc dental), infrastructure, or welfare.

If Debnam could have told me that he would get our 500mil+ some (PA) back from Howard I may have voted for him. That might have been honest at least.

We are fortunate that we have a few real "liberals" on the back bench in Canberra. I pray for their health
Posted by michael2, Thursday, 29 March 2007 1:53:28 AM
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Rudd's idea is to use a part of the future fund now to take us into the future.
Luddites who are unable to even start to understand his intent and the outcomes that benefit Australia are hurting that future.
Howard is no true believer in climate change and is a dangerous man to be in charge at present.
I want to except the greens had the right to vote as they wished, conservatives do not share that view but ask this question.
While greens preferences leaked to Labor at a rate of 1 in 3 in those seats that did not see them directed by the party.
What do you consider was the intent in seats that may yet fall to liberals?
Why the change in marginal seats?
In the federal election Howard will not win, a preference deal like that could assist him.
Yes ok the Luddites and rusted on conservatives will be upset by this but the non conservatives must defeat this dreadful government.
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 29 March 2007 7:07:01 AM
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NSW's GST revenue slice is down not because of the Federal Govt, but because our idiotic Labor state govt refuses to remove state taxes that the GST was supposed to replace. The likes of Stamp Duty. So excess GST revenue gleaned from the long-suffering NSW taxpayers is being shifted to those States (like QLD) that DID do what they were supposed to when GST was introduced.

The Future Fund is designed to cover future super payments to public servants because unlike most employees, public servants super isnt actually paid into super funds. So the Future Fund is in effect a giant super fund. The changes to superannuation from 1/7/07 where most people will able able to access tax-free super once they turn 60, doesnt and wont apply to public servants who rely on unfunded super schemes, as their super is not in a normal "taxed" super environment. So they will still need to pay tax on any payments that they get. This is a great disadvantage to them compared to other retirees.
Posted by Country Gal, Thursday, 29 March 2007 1:40:44 PM
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