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What is happening to women? : Comments

By Mary Bryant, published 7/3/2007

What has happened to our liberation, freedom and to the role of women in our society?

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As usual the women here talk more and say less.
Men are fundamentally different to woman. This
difference causes them to hate women. It is
this hatred of women that women have to fear.
Protect yourself with a gun because he hates you.
Posted by Mercy, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 3:33:43 PM
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First let me state that men can be called sluts just as easily as women in fact I often say that men are sluts. Why use the term sluts only for women there’s no law against using the term for men is there? The competition that exists between women causes some of them to call other women sluts out of jealously. The sisters should take some of the responsibility for this slur directed at women. Stop directing it at the women and start directing it at the men.

Men have a different reason for wanting to put women into two categories. Men have no way of knowing who there children are. Hence they want to marry a virgin to make sure of paternity. On the other hand they want the non virgins so they can have sex on the side.

So girls stop all the silly romantic nonsense about love and relationships and play the game the way the men do. That is put all women who can take it on the pill and let them have safe sex with any man who they fancy as long as they are willing to pay for it.
Stop playing the virgin game that the men want you to play for their benefit. They’ll soon have a rethink when they realize that they will never be able to sire children their whole lifetime. If any woman does wish to have a child maybe it could be done through artificial insemination or sleeping with a lot of men so none of them ever know their own children.

Don’t get romantically attached to one man when you can have as many as you like without ever being left holding the baby if they decide to piss off with a younger one when the responsibility of children gets too much for them.

Women often turn on other women out of competition and jealously and this stops them seeing that they have to make a united stand against the men to even things up.
Posted by sharkfin, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 5:20:14 PM
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I have absolutely zero faith that women will be able to stop buying trash magazines or watching crap like Desperate Housewives. You're your own worst enemy.
Posted by strayan, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 5:27:24 PM
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Pt.I Women and Slaves
One of the most revealing aspects of Athenian society
was the similarity of the positions of women and slaves:
a considerable number of references and symbols connect
the two categories. The legal term for wife was damar, a
word derived from a root meaning "to subdue" or "to tame."
...Like a slave, a woman had virtually no protection under
the law except insofar as she was the property of a man.
She was in fact, not a person under the law....

Some Classicists argue that the ancient Athenians were mild
masters to their slaves, thus echoing Aristotle, who wrote
of the "customary gentleness of the Athenian people." Such
evidence as we have, however, suggests that slavery was
more unmitigated in Athens than in many other ancient societies.
A telling detail of their customs was the use of an object
called a "gulp preventer" (pausikape), a wooden collar
closing the jaws, which was placed on slaves who handled food
to keep them from eating it....

Sexually, as in all other ways, slaves were at the mercy of
their owners. In fact, we will see that slaves, whether owned
by public and private brothels or by individuals, provided
men's habitual sex outlets, a circumstance which in itself
must have generated an equation of sex with domination.

Eva Keuls, The Reign of the Phallus.
Posted by Hawaiilawyer, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 5:37:50 PM
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Pt.II The Image of the Conqueror

The charter of the sword -- what better one is there?

As the miltary aristocracy of western Europe extended its lordship
outwards in the eleventh, twelfth and thirteenth centuries, its
members created not only conquest states and colonial societies,
but also representations of themselves and their enterprises. These
images of conqueror and conquest are enshrined in the histories and
charters that their clerical brothers and cousins drew up... Written
memorials of this kind...elaborate a terminology and rhetoric of expansionary violence.

Mythic motifs recur: the first coming of the conquerors; the figure of the heroic military pioneer, perhaps a
poor knight or noble, who took the gamble of foreign conquest; the superhuman exploits of the new men.
What emerges from such records is the self-image of the conqueror.

The conqueror was a man with a special set of drives, certain patterns
of emotion. Those classic image-makers, the early chroniclers of the
Norman conquest in southern Italy..., do not ascribe Norman success to
numbers or to technical advantages, but to a series of psychological
characteristics...they had mental qualities that gave them an edge.
First was their energy (strenuitas). This is a theme particularly
prominent in the pages of Malaterra, who writes of the energy of
the Hauteville clan, the leaders of the Norman enterprise; of
Norman chiefs who are "energetic in arms"; of men who "obtained
the favour of all through their energy"; of a pre-battle harangue
in which the Normans are urged "be mindful of the much praised
energy of our ancestors and our race, which we have maintained
unto the present"...Robert Guiscard's invasion of
the Byzantine mainland in l08l showed his "great daring and knightly energy."

As well as being vigorous, the Normans are courageous, the "toughest
of soldiers"...

Part of the change was towards a new cruelty, brutality and blood-
thirstiness, for savagery was as imporant a part of the image as
vigour and valour...To the local Lombard princes they
seemed "a savage, barbarous and horrible race of inhuman disposition."
It was an image that was...cultivated....

Robert Bartlett, The Making of Europe.
Posted by Hawaiilawyer, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 5:59:36 PM
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Scandinavia has tried but exploitation of women for a market exists, but relations as human beings? Common parlance promptly labels the behaviour deviant promiscuous degrading. So to nudity a matter of plain interest to the young is classed as sin, not as acceptance and wonder. Do young women also have interest in discovery of another’s body?
Sure society is hard on women, and other group that by allowance reductional training can be classed as different, inferior.
So start realising from young children on that empathy is more useful than religious prejudice or male dominance. Co Operation might aid in less violence if poverty was alleviated and the status that goes with such. If frustration, common to us all not only sexually was taught as such and methods of coping learnt, no not just sexual frustration, after all if masturbation was not still taboo but taught as alternative and acceptable this frustration might be reduced, we all might be able to live more peaceably. Still seeking goals but recognising the right of others
No I am not balming women but maybe subscribing to the idea that gender is socially made sex is biological. Perverting social behaviour towards a belief has its own penalties. In human behaviour hormones count, sublimation is possible with penalty, male or female guilt ispwoerfuland cruel.
Posted by untutored mind, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 6:11:37 PM
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