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What is happening to women? : Comments

By Mary Bryant, published 7/3/2007

What has happened to our liberation, freedom and to the role of women in our society?

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Aqvarivs says: "We would never apply our own interpretation nor hold that above the authors intended work. We were taught the value of individual words and their relationship in sentence structure to convey what the author means. NOT what the reader would like for it to mean." But that is exactly what you have done with my posts (read into it what you'd like to believe)and for no sensible reason that I can make out. You hate so hard you can't even see your own prejudice -that's what, I think, has happened to you. I gather that from your words and attitude.

You make too many assumptions based on your entrenched and well learnt prejudices. For instance: Your thinking goes along the lines of "he disagrees with me and has this opinion here so he must be formally educated to the point that he is a naffette who can't think for self". Says more about your Catholic education than mine. A lot of Catholics, from my experience, seem to hate it when you argue against them or point out their flaws in reasoning.

It is also ironic that people like Aqvarvis usually blindly adhere to the thinking of other "academics" who claim to, or clearly imply that others who disgree with them, are somehow incapable of analysis because of their education. But when you look at their education and their attitude you have to wonder how they could be so wrapped up in themselves as to see that they may as well be talking about themselves.

My "formal" education started as a lad on the floor of a meat works. First leasson. "Ya' hands too cold to hold ya' bloody knife. Well stick 'em in the cattle guts for a while young fella." Why didn't I think of that?
Posted by ronnie peters, Thursday, 26 April 2007 12:00:06 PM
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"JameH and Aqvarivs. I know hatred when I see it. You hate and you know two know it. But you can't even se it happening to yourselves. That is why I get up your nose so much because I point it out to you and it sends you into denial.
Posted by ronnie peters, Thursday, 26 April 2007 11:14:00 AM"

How do I feel about this accusation?

I feel a real sense of sadness.

No Ronnie you do not get up my nose, I can breathe very easliy through both nostrils TY, well I will once I get over my cold.
Posted by JamesH, Friday, 27 April 2007 9:12:17 AM
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JamesH. You feel sadness. And I feel sorry for you.

Why would you feel sad? Some sort of elitist religious thing based on those prejudices you've learnt from the propaganda machine? Or a genuine love of your own superiority?

You got personal with me once that was outside the bounds of normal behaviour. I even considered whether or not you were an aspergers sufferer. So I am going to get personal with you.

Any man who attacks anothers family and then hasn't the decency to apoligise like a real man must be so dysfunctional and bitter he doesn't even realise it. Now you go and spend the next few hours scrolling the net for another of your theories. While you're at it at it, grab a beer out the fridge and tell us about it so you can pretend you're normal. Can't you see what is happening to you JameH you're being radicalised - you're turning into a malebot? The ultra conservatives (and the ultra left) always enlist what Lennin called "useful idiots". So take care JamesH. Use your intellect wisely.

I did have a happy and very joyful Easter. My name is Ronnie (and I can bench press a car). I know that really gets on your goat.

Hope your cold gets better and your demeanour sweetens a bit next time we "discuss" things.

Aqvaravis. Agreed witha lot of your post. But not all. Note the difference between men and women on this thread. Male egos dominate.
Posted by ronnie peters, Friday, 27 April 2007 1:34:39 PM
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Maybe I do have a bit of aspergers, but who knows?

I've debating with myself about exposes some personal stuff, I wonder however if I am just providing you with more ammunition to hit below the belt.

When I was a teenager, I decided that I didn't want to be like the other blokes that the girls were always complaining about, later on I heard that men in marriage oppressed women. So I started out to discover what is that men do to oppress women, simple because I did not want to behave in that way. I took NO to mean NO long before it became a popular slogan.

I thought if I could just learn to divine what a woman wanted, then I could meet those expectations.

Stuff happens and I don't understand why (maybe aspergers)so I read alot, and obviously different material to what you read.

Ronnie without a doubt you are an antagonist. You once, perhaps more than once have accused me of using a low tactics.

Your above post is definitely resorting to low tactics.

Yes I guess I have to be a radical to suggest that it would be much better to deal with violence more holistically, rather than the current piecemeal fashion.

Yes I had a nice easter as well, took the kids fishing, they got bored then absolutely soaked and covered in sand.

PS I hope your demeanour sweetens as well Roonie.
Posted by JamesH, Friday, 27 April 2007 4:05:47 PM
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ronnie peters, you don't get up my nose. You get under foot. All man haters do. I can't understand people who turn on their own sex with such rabid disrespect just to appear "more" sensitive to the feminist woe. I do not support divisive club mentality of any stripe. That you can not understand that isn't my fault. That you deconstruct to form your arguments is evidence that your personal hatreds and biases are deeply entrenched and you will find the proof you need with a little modification here and there. After all it is your right to readjust any work to suit your specific "feelings" on any given subject.
You obviously have some issues around education and religion. What ever your dispute with these institutions I can not guess but, I can not see how my right to voice my opinion must be superseded by yours and that I must take it and like it with out recourse. I may not always say what is right but, I do say what I think. That is as honest as I can be. I'm not going to try to be someone I am not. I'd rather have a clear conscience even if my thoughts aren't expressed just so.
Posted by aqvarivs, Monday, 30 April 2007 2:41:45 PM
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aqvarivs says: "...I can not see how my right to voice my opinion must be superseded by yours and that I must take it and like it with out recourse. I may not always say what is right but, I do say what I think. That is as honest as I can be. I'm not going to try to be someone I am not. I'd rather have a clear conscience even if my thoughts aren't expressed just so." Me too!
Posted by ronnie peters, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 9:29:11 AM
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