Just to be clear to everyone else. Ev is trying to paint me as uptight and saying that I called her unscrupulous. But this is just the same obvious attempt to generate dispute, when none exists.

Ev's contribution is about cherry-picking information and inventing and generating dispute. This is tried and tested PR, but has proven a failure. It has not split the scientific community, it has not discredited the scientific method and it has not swayed the general public.

Look at the National Geographic article and none of the scientists say that Global Warming does not melt glaciers. End of story. No amount of cherry-picking the discussion of other factors involved (eg dirty snow, deforestation) can alter this.

The National Post has deliberately sort "deniers" and discussing Edward Wegman. Lets remember that his involvement was through a Republican-dominated committee of US politicians. He was the "original program director of the basic research program in Ultra High Speed Computing at the Strategic Defense Initiative's Innovative Science and Technology Office (Star Wars Program)." http://www.galaxy.gmu.edu/stats/faculty/wegman.html

The calibre and colour of Wegman’s biography suggests he was the right person for the job asked of him by the Committee. But the problem is when all efforts to critique climate change were exhausted, the conclusions of global warming remain standing, and as far as can be humanly ascertained, we are living in the warmest period for 1000 years, and getting warmer.

David Latimer, there were clearly two opinions expressed by two qualified people on the role of climate change on Killimanjaro. And it may come as a surprise to you but the mere fact that one of them agreed with you does not constitute validation of your opinion. In fact, from my recollection the pro-climate change argument was full of sophistry.

And your links above to the Royal society are nothing but a set of straw men set up for the society to knock over. All this stuff was dealt with in relation to Al Gores bollocks but you and the Tim Lamberts of this world keep returning to your vomit.

Response to Perseus:

You are explaining that a scientist speaking about the effect deforrestaion has on a particular glacier is contradicting the scientist who says global warming speeds up the melting eightfold.

Are you seriourly trying to convince people that deforrestation nullifies the effect of global warming?

Wow!