Dear Fellow Human ,

Rest Assured that there are, at this point in our history, very FEW Australians that are "wrapping themselves in fear ,anger and hate "over anything.

However I suspect you may be alluding to the odd one or two that live in these pages .

Most of us would much rather go to the footy and cheer for the underdog or go for a surf, than go to war over Religion .

This is a happier way of life .

FH,

I am not least surprised that your anecdotes impressed a few people.

But in fact, all that you had done was challenging others (including imams) to turn to the 'true' Islam.

As you stated time and again, you are here (in OLO) to correct misconception, misrepresentation about Islam.

And you are always presenting Islam as a moderate religion.

Therefore in blunt terms, you are here with a single-minded purpose: To present a DECEPTION, and to do it in friendly manners.

A deception that covers Islamic enlightment and innovation in architecture, finance, health, medical, science, legal and social systems....Hmmm...

But don't pretend for a moment non-muslims have not asked you direct questions. There are lots, just that you were incapable of answering them.

I present an excerpt from my earlier post:

<< The Jews and Christians have their religions and so Muhammad wanted to also establish a religion for the Arabs, the arch-enemy of Jews. There were untold personal benefits for Muhammad to so do.
So he started telling people he met Angel Gabriel and then the hoax grew and took on a life of it's own... Today this hoax has a respectable name - Islam.
It is laughable Muslims' claim that Muhammad's illiteracy is proof Allah must had put words in his mouth. I am sure Muhammad, illerate he might be, must'd been a very communicative person. You won't expect someone who could successfully command an army to be any less than being cunning, manipulative and communicative (and violent, too) >>

And now my direct question to you:

What is your proof that Muhammad's Islam is not a hoax?

(For teachings not based on the truth are futile)

THIS_IS_CLASSIC :)

Amazing 'balanced' remarks from our resident political thought policeman PERICLES..

F.H. says:
"I had many encounters and the one I was asked to leave when I went into the mosque wearing the surfing gear. I was approached by someone who introduced himself as the imam and said I can't pray when I am dressed in this attire etc."

then.....

"I smiled and asked him to refer me to the hadith or reference. He got worried when i quoted him a genuine hadith"

PERICLES Addressing F.H.
"Your courage, in confronting the bigotry that some religious leaders show in imposing their own personal standards under the guise of their faith, is commendable"

PERICLES Addressing BOAZ

"Presenting interminably, and with vigour and self-certainty, that something is evil, Boaz, leaves you wide open to the charge of rabble-rousing.
As does the selection inflammatory material in support of your cause, choosing only the most unflattering extracts.
It is what rabble-rousers do.
Mosley did it. You are doing it"

AAAhh..the sweet savour of 'exposure'
F.H. on the grounds of our thought policemans views I have to inform you that u r a REBEL mate :) a "rabble rouser"..HOW DARE you challenge established beliefs with a reference to their sources..hmmmmm Ok..its off to the inquisitory cell block 4 you me boy :) (In Damascus of course)

Ok.. seriously though.. how come you can refer to 'Authentic' Hadith in defense of your slack, ocker attire... and I cannot when referring to the understanding of Mohammed of his Quran ? I showed you and Pericles a while back.. AUTHentic.. Bukhari and Muslim.. I gave you the confirming introduction... etc.. yet..I'm a 'Moselyite Rabble Rouser' and you are a courageous ambassador of truth :)

I'm smelling just a tinnnnny bit of bias here ^_-

Oh..I've found my unofficial bodyguard now. He is a Samoan, built like a battleship but with twice the impact :)
See you at the Islmamic Conference in Melb over easter.

Pericles.. people come to our fellowship in F.H.s 'uniform' sometimes, no biggy.

That, Boaz, is the longest bow drawn so far, and you are fooling no-one.

>>F.H. on the grounds of our thought policemans views I have to inform you that u r a REBEL mate :)<<

Something has spooked you into a very defensive posture, and typically you are taking the only way out you know. First distort the views of others, then attack them as if those views belonged to them, rather than are the product of your own, somewhat pedestrian, imagination.

There is, let me be the first to break it to you, a world of difference between a gentle challenge to one of your own faith...

>>I smiled and asked him to refer me to the hadith<<

... and your habit of perpetual denigration of a faith that is not your own.

>>I'm smelling just a tinnnnny bit of bias here ^_-<<

Tinny or not, I will confess to a bias for honest evaluation, and a bias against blind fear of the "other" that manifests itself in rabble-rousing.

I'm also somewhat amused by your imagining me as "thought police". My mission here is to try in my own small way to blunt your attempts to distort, bend and magnify other views as "bad", in contrast to your own, which are apparently "good".

This is your modus operandi on most matters religious and cultural. If pointing it out here is acting as "thought police", then you have a very strange view of even that normally well-understood concept.

You mention Mosley again. Any thoughts yet on any of his quotes that I have posted? Did they ring bells, and that is why you are ignoring them?

Have a great day.