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Have libertarians had enough? : Comments

By Patrick Baume, published 5/2/2007

It is highly unlikely that libertarian leaning voters will abandon the Howard Government in droves at the next election.

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Will libertarian voters abandon the Liberal government?

I know for myself, who have often voted toward Liberal or independant, am a bit dissappointed with Howards reduction of the size of government. I have even heard suggested that Howard spends and taxes more than Prime Ministers like Hawke, Whitlam and Keating.

But last federal election in SA, there was just one candidate that I would consider libertarian (Richard Armour ran for the Senate).

It is this real lack of choice for truly small government that made me decide to run for the senate this year. Stewart for Senate! :)
Posted by StewartGlass, Monday, 5 February 2007 9:56:12 AM
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It's hard to know if large numbers of voters are ready to jump ship. Johnboy has a bulging war chest which he is bound to share with the punters in the lead-up to the election so the great unwashed might be once again won over with trinkets and treasure. The punters might not like the look of the ALP 'dream team' especially when the deputy speaks in some little understood language.
Posted by Sage, Monday, 5 February 2007 10:14:41 AM
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Posted by skepticlawyer, Monday, 5 February 2007 11:24:32 AM
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As Groucho would put it, perhaps a good definition of "liberaltarian" is someone who wouldn't join a club that would have them as a member.

Guess I must be a liberaltarian. Who's with me? ;-)
Posted by Mercurius, Monday, 5 February 2007 12:22:25 PM
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The problem with 'libertarian' policies is they're hard to sell and there have been a few spectacular failures - Sydney cross-city tunnel anyone?

From my experience, economic libertarians and the extreme social kind tend to be slightly divorced from reality. They take a decent theory (the market is a better selection device than government) and extrapolate it past the common sense view to corners of the world to which it should not apply (school vouchers for instance).

I read a nice critique of the late Milton Friedman by US left-leaning economist Paul Krugman along these lines the other day. Friedman was a brilliant economist, the story said, and made some very useful contributions to theory. But as a social theorist, Friedman fell in love with his own bulldust.

Personally, I think all Australia needs is a return to decent, responsible middle-of-the-road Westminster government, where ministerial responsibility is exercised.

In a macro-economic sense, everyone pretty much agrees on the same things - independence of monetary policy, the importance of maintaining low inflation and fiscal responsibility (although Howard is a little flexible on the last one).

The big battles now are over product market reform (like water, like power), and as one commentator pointed out the other day, Labor is actually better positioned to deliver on that one, as it is on skills training and infrastructure investment. These are issues that most economists, including this one, believe are the most urgent ones.

On social theory, while gay marriage, the republic and the right to euthanasia would be nice to have, the real battle after 10 years of Howardism is over the maintenance of fundamental tenets of democracy - like the right to a fair trial, separation of church and state, an indepdendent media, professional non-politicised public service and the protection of minorities.

In light of the above, then, I think it's time for true liberals (in the John Stuart Mill sense) to combine with the pragmatic social democracts in the ALP and rescue Australia from what appears to be an increasing descent into neo-fascism.
Posted by Mr Denmore, Monday, 5 February 2007 7:17:37 PM
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Libertarians don't necessarily support gay marriage. Libertarians would probably say that governments should not be in the marriage business at all. Marriage is based on love and commitment, the views of government are not relevant.
Posted by Rob88, Monday, 5 February 2007 8:56:45 PM
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