Fairgo you might consider some of the things Obama mentions in The Audacity of Hope (I know it's highly unfashionable but this guy actually has some nous). Or his responses during interviews on US TV.

Unfortunately Mickijo is probably right regards American voters. The whole friggin' nation has ADD.

there seems to be some thing of a fuss over the prospect of young Osama's possible ascension to higher office - it may happen - remember this is the country that gave us R Reagan and G W Bush - you gotta aks yo'sef does it really matter who is president when many of the decisions seem to happen well away from the Oval Office

" ... Evidently you see his time in Indonesia as a negative - some kind of taint. I see it as the exact opposite. The mistakes made by the current administration have often been due to a lack of understanding. ... "

Indeed!
I to see *Obama's* time in Indo as a BIG +.
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I spend most of my time in Indo & believe that my understanding of the staunch Muslims with whom I live has deepened a bit over a period of 9mths. Additionally, my tolerance 2wards difference may have expanded a tad also and my overall sense of HOPE increases when viewing a candidate such as *Obama*
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Contrast this 2 cashed up *Hillary* who mayhaps b just a stereotypical american candidate thrown 2 the top of the heap by the established artisans of american style $ democracy.
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My view is that America requires something new - a LEADER with genuine "Humane Compassion," for if all they ever go on about is the death & hardship of their own, then packing a "Benevolent Heart" they are not.
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In response to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of babies in Iraq, the clinton sec of state said something like:
" ... We think the price is worth it. ... "
& in response to the U235Enrichment.Waste.Munitions. issue said something like:
" ... Well that is what U get! ... "
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There needs 2 b some additional levels of definition applied 2 the *Hillary* character, I believe, as it would appear 2 me that some of her supporters do not have the best interests of *Humanity* as a whole @ Heart.
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http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/article2165470.ece
The battle to save Iraq's children

: ... They are backed by a group of international lawyers, who say the conditions in hospitals revealed in their letter amount to a breach of the Geneva conventions that require Britain and the US as occupying forces to protect human life. ... "

This guy has two fatal flaws;

(1)He epitomises the San Francisco school of far left"small L" liberal Democrats,who float on Cloud 9 in Cuckoo Land and have the realpolitik maturity of a five year old.
What this school is good at is populist catchphrases which realistically have no chance of ever succeeding.
Trust me-my cousin is one and hasnt a clue.

(2) He may still be a Moslem,even though he professes to have Christian beliefs.
Knowing how the Yanks and most of the Western world fell about Moslems,this is like suggesting that the Pope should be the next King of Saudi Arabia.
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Comeone guys-get real!

Barack Obama is further proof of America media creating news. Obama has been pressured from day one to enter this Pre-election news fest promoted by the American media to fill the dead space between events in Iraq and bashing GW on his way out the presidential door. The American media now has the next election up and running a year and more before the contestants who may run are actually prepared to commit to the expense and effort necessary to be a viable contender.
Those who were complaining about GW's election numbers best hang on to something. If the number of Democrats who have officially stated today that they are running remain. Their electorial numbers are going to be low indeed. The next President of the U.S.A. may only represent an even smaller percentage of the popular vote.
I doubt Kerry and Clinton are going to go away. And that's not even speaking of the Republic side of events.

mik, I don't know who you're comparing Barrack Obama to, but here are a couple of classic quotes from the current resident of the Oval Office:

"I like to tell people when the final history is written on Iraq, it will look like just a comma because there is -- my point is, there's a strong will for democracy."

"And truth of the matter is, a lot of reports in Washington are never read by anybody. To show you how important this one is, I read it, and our guest read it."

"This business about graceful exit just simply has no realism to it at all."

Much, much more is available at http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/blbushisms.htm . Bush would seem to be a speaker who cannot even deliver a cliche without muddling it up.

Regarding your second point, perhaps you might get back to us if you find a shred of evidence that Obama is a Muslim fifth columnist. "Get real" indeed.

Finally, I must take exception to your exhortation to "comeone guys". What do you think we are, deviated preverts?